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Old 02-14-2017, 08:41 AM
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Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

Good day all,

I just started learning colored pencils. I have bought quite a few of the standard recommended books but they all feature Prismacolor pencils. While I have tried to match my Polychromos pencils as closely as possible, it has proven difficult. I have Karen Hull's Coloured Pencil Conversion and Colour Reference Charts and I am puzzled to say the least. Some of the matches are so obviously different I wonder if it's my eyes that have a problem.


I was wondering if anyone can recommend a book that features mainly Polychromos pencils. So far the only book I own that does so is Ann Swan's Botanical Portraits. I have Susan Rubin's excellent video course. I have Ann Kullberg's courses and the only one that features Polychromos is the Pansies Jumpstart Kit.

I'd like to get some so that I can focus on replicating the technique shown and comparing the colour laid down to the book so I know I'm on the right track. Hoping some of you with extensive libraries might be able to throw me a bone!

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Old 02-14-2017, 09:46 AM
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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

My suggestion.. Ignore the color names. Ignore recepies because those are not the ones that will make you learn. Get a book using any pencil. Check the color he is using and try to emulate, that is how you will learn. Do nto try to match perfectly, because you cannot and you DO NOT NEED! In fact you will learn much more this way than if you had the same pencils as the author.

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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

JC, try going to You Tube, type in Polychromos Pencils and see if that helps.

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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

Hello JC, I took an online botanical class with Wendy Hollender. You can look up her book in Amazon. She has a website. She uses FC Poly. and FC watercolor pencils. I hope it helps.
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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

I agree with Tiago.dagostini in general and that's a good thing for me since I work from life, not photographs. But I do know that Janie Gildow uses polychromos as well as prismacolor and Pablo's. She has a craftsy class on combining watercolor and colored pencil and for each project she tries to give supply lists for all 3 brands. She does say that exact matches aren't always available and that the goal of the class is to learn techniques and not just to duplicate her example.

Gildow also has lessons on her website at http://www.janiegildow.com

I think there's the most to learn from videos rather than pdfs that show the stages of a project. In a video you can see the teacher handling the pencils, which is informative.

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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

Well I am also new to the CP world but come the acrylic area of painting. I liked mixing colors on the palette to get the exact one I wanted. Of course we cannot do that with CP's but what I have found helpful, as well as tons of research and this forum, is to have a decent piece of paper next to your painting that you can use as a kind of a palette or test paper. You can try the layers before you work them on your painting. Okay, it's not the same, but what the heck, it can't hurt and it works for me.
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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

Alyona Nickelsen: Colored pencils painting bible
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Re: Any Polychromos-based Courses or Book recommendations?

Hi guys,

First of all thank you so much for your responses! I'm delighted to receive so many helpful tips and for the time you give to help out a noob!

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My suggestion.. Ignore the color names. Ignore recepies because those are not the ones that will make you learn. Get a book using any pencil. Check the color he is using and try to emulate, that is how you will learn. Do nto try to match perfectly, because you cannot and you DO NOT NEED! In fact you will learn much more this way than if you had the same pencils as the author.

Thanks for that! So far that's what I've been doing. The only thing I would have liked though is to actually compare the finished work to mine and check. I learn from copying first, but I do understand what you mean. I'm glad that what you're suggesting indicates that I'm on the right track.

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JC, try going to You Tube, type in Polychromos Pencils and see if that helps.

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Azure, thanks for that. I did do that, and unfortunately only a few were vidos I could actually follow. Most were speed drawings that I found too fast to emulate. I do have some favourites now though... Emmy Kalia, Peta Hewitt, Jescia Hopper among others. I learn a lot technique wise just watching and following!

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Hello JC, I took an online botanical class with Wendy Hollender. You can look up her book in Amazon. She has a website. She uses FC Poly. and FC watercolor pencils. I hope it helps.

Sapphire, most definitely, thanks for the tip!

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... She does say that exact matches aren't always available and that the goal of the class is to learn techniques and not just to duplicate her example.


Sutra, thanks, that's what I will focus on for now, the technique. I just like comparing my finished attempt with the original

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...have a decent piece of paper next to your painting that you can use as a kind of a palette or test paper. You can try the layers before you work them on your painting.


Thanks mate! My confusion arises from, say an instruction says, layer on color A, then B. If I need to mix C+D = A, and E+F = B, does that mean I would effectively have to layer on C+D, then E+F? And if it's two or even more layers of A then B, then I'm stuck on how many of C+D and E+F I need.
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