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Old 12-25-2019, 06:38 PM
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Lesson learned

Not fun. Was painting a pastel sketch for practice on Mi Teintes colored ground. Not my favorite paper, but this was intended only as a "study" from imagination. Actually turned into a fairly good finished piece!

So went to spray it with Spectrafix Degas, which has worked OK for me on Pastelmat, and it went totally awry. Paper warped seriously, colors actually ran, and brights sort of dulled. Even after drying, it looked like a lost cause.

Not sure what went wrong other than overspraying too close and using not so good paper for any form of moisture (holds up OK to standard fixatives.)

Ah well, lesson learned....
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Old 12-25-2019, 07:20 PM
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Re: Lesson learned

I just recently used it for the first time, on velour paper, and it did not generally change the colors, but it left spots. I was really hoping it would work.
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Old 12-25-2019, 08:49 PM
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Re: Lesson learned

Yes, the Spectrafix will cause Canson MT to warp, especially if heavily sprayed. I've found that by spraying the back of the paper as well will cause it to even out. It also helps to use light, progressive coats throughout the painting process. Heavier coats can take a long time to dry. I also use it only if I'm going to layer over it. I don't care for the look it leaves as a final fix.
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Old 12-26-2019, 09:49 AM
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Re: Lesson learned

I purchased a misting bottle to pour the Spectrafix into for application. Comes out much lighter and more evenly. The brand of the bottle is Florasol on Amazon.... but I feel sure that most any "plant mister" would work the same. The pump bottle the Spectrafix comes in sprays it too unevenly for me. Alas, I fear the Canson paper was also part of the problem... just absorbs too much of the liquid and warps as a result. Thanks for sharing your experience. We live and learn through trial and error!
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Old 12-26-2019, 11:32 AM
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I purchased a misting bottle to pour the Spectrafix into for application. Comes out much lighter and more evenly. The brand of the bottle is Florasol on Amazon.... but I feel sure that most any "plant mister" would work the same. The pump bottle the Spectrafix comes in sprays it too unevenly for me. Alas, I fear the Canson paper was also part of the problem... just absorbs too much of the liquid and warps as a result. Thanks for sharing your experience. We live and learn through trial and error!
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I was looking at those. Are they truly all the same (they look that way on Amazon)?
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I was looking at those. Are they truly all the same (they look that way on Amazon)?




I got my Florasol bottle on Amazon for around $10 and it works great. If you look at the Spectrafix page online, they now sell their "Final Fix Natural Glass" in a Florasol-type bottle. I ordered the Final Fixative, and the bottle appears to be exactly the same as the Florasol. Same size and shape. No more splattering with the pump. But I think a "misting bottle" from Walmart or Lowes would work just as well.


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Old 12-27-2019, 11:26 PM
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Did you get the "natural glass"? If so, I'm dying to hear how well it worked for you.
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Re: Lesson learned

I did get the Natural Glass and it has worked well. I did find that it seems to work better if I spray a fine mist of Spectrafix Fixative first. When that is dry, I spray a fine mist of the Natural Glass. Then, when dry a light second coat. These are paintings I will keep. Not sure if someone who collects pastel pieces would want to frame with no glass. But I primarily paint for myself... and I like being able to frame without the glass. Once coated, I can run my fingertips across it and pick up no pastel.
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