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Old 07-18-2019, 02:03 PM
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I've had a week or so when I havent been drawing, apart form a few bad sketches. To be honest I've been fiddling with my old hobby, archery. My partner has a very long garden and also I've found an area in the gallery garden (ok, yard) where I can practice. I dont consider art a hobby anymore and archery is something that can take your mind away completely. Today, I started some more drawing and something very strange happened; I suddenly found that I was using the 'underhand' drawing position without thinking about it. I've tried it a few times before but this time it seemed to be totally natural. Maybe its good to get away from art for a few days

Do many of you draw like this? It does feel as if the line can flow a lot better without the constrictions that the classic pencil position imposes.



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Re: underhand drawing

I don't know about being 'underhanded' Dave, that does look like a familiar position to me, where the hand can swivel, but I find I can also vary a lot as I draw.

what kind of bow do you use for archery?

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Yes, that grip is familiar. I would use it when standing and working larger. Using The wrist and elbow movement. Nice drawing.
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Re: underhand drawing

it's a nice draw, I like it. I find it true then what you say of greater fluency after a small pause.

for my grip, maybe I use an overhand Grip that looks like an underhand ....
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you reminded me of something about taking, a year and a half ago I took maybe the best book I have.
key of draw, I stayed halfway through the book because I postponed it and then delayed taking it back when asked asking to design a model, figure under different light sources, especially outdoors.

. however in the second chapter he spoke of some styles of some masters and spoke of the sockets,
he said to start drawing with an underhand grip near the handle because it gave a looser grip, for details instead of taking the pencil near the tip.
he said it the first time while quoting Degas and putting his drawing or 2, drawing of the lions he did in a zoo to explain this, his style and different phases. that with this we have instinct, a looser, instinctive design.
cgu knows if there are more specific books on these aspects only. on masters, on the single master, or Renaissance artists.

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Old 07-22-2019, 07:38 AM
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Thanks Mac - iI havent abandoned other positions, I'm not that underhanded I am currently using a horsebow. I have a couple of longbows, one of which has developed a crack and the other is next to bring back into service. I also have an olympic style recurve plus all the gubbins but havent shot that for many years. Strangely, you can connect archery to art. Hand to eye co-ordination and muscle memory. For both you need to be in the zone, those magic moments when nothing can go wrong. Sadly, its not that often for me

Thanks Boogie - for larger drawings it works well but its difficult when detailing. Then, I revert back to the classic position. I'm trying a few different techniques at the moment

Thanks Joe. Certainly, this position is is similar to holding a brush and holding further down the shaft of the pencil gives very relaxed and free results
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I find that I can 'feel' the form when I sketch under-handed. In fact, the pencil rests entirely under my hand. Not just under my fingers. When I draw as I would write with a pencil, I completely go from expression to line (and a poor one at that).
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I like your gestural figure. On the easel I usually draw with a "thumbs up" grip.
I can make nice curves this way. On a flat surface I use the writing style grip.
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That drawing is just phenomenal ! everything just flowing like a river.
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Re: underhand drawing

Kristy, I find a stub is better but if it gets too small its impossible to sharpen

Thanks Dcam, I think I understand the 'thumbs up' grip but would welcome a pic

Wow, thanks Monkey, mutual admiration here
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I almost always draw underhanded. I can get better flowy lines and I can rest my knuckles on the board when I need to be steady for details. I can’t do that with ink because it flows the wrong way, but if I could figure out a way to do it I would.
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thanks for the info Llawrence
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The underhand grip is easier when drawing large and also allows you to shade using the side of the pencil more easily.
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I mostly use the underhand grip but then I am an underhanded guy.
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Agreed Nathan

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Re: underhand drawing

It looks as if you're using a paintbrush, position-wise. Being left-handed, this is something I did a long time ago, to keep from smudging things. Now, I just "draw" with paint; not much sketching anymore.
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