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Old 08-01-2015, 12:39 AM
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Re: Basics 101: Class 2 - Foundation of Perspective

Thank you, Arnoud. It took me a moment or two, but I understand what you are saying. I shall get there! It is amazing what I have learnt in just these few lessons…and staggering to think just how far I have still to go!

Onto the table and chair. Both are sturdy wooden furniture, drawn from life. The table is a small low table, the chair a kitchen chair.

The biggest mistake with both in the initial sketch was to make the back legs way too long. On the table the furthest back leg was also badly misplaced.

The second thing that was major for me, was realizing, with the chair, I was below the horizon! I was sitting on a low sofa and first did the legs and seat in a light sketch, like a box. When that was more or less OK I added in the back…to discover I was below it and the lines would run the other way.

My first thought was to fetch a cushion to make me higher but then I decided to give it a go as things will be both above and below my eye line all the time, I suppose.

As I finished it and was looking at the chair I noticed I had drawn the VL from the front of one leg and the back of its pair. The back leg was the one I had had all the trouble with and I decided in the end to leave it. I am not a carpenter, (which is just as well if you saw the first drawing!)

And, of course, I seem to have trouble staying vertical….

here they are

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Re: Basics 101: Class 2 - Foundation of Perspective

Very well done, Katie .
No problems with perspective .
But don't be too much fixed on perspective. The chair is screaming "Look, I'm a perspective study" . The front corners are much too sharp for a realistic drawing, you've put the VP's too close together.

Well done on the assignments for this class, please move on to class 3
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The chair is screaming "Look, I'm a perspective study" . :


It is rather, isn't it , but I'm still quite proud of it

Thank you for the lessons. Perspective is always why I have stopped trying to learn to draw in the past....people would say of my tentative efforts,
"well, it's quite nice, but isn't there something wrong with the perspective?" And I never got past that stage.

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Work for Class 2...Finding i'm a to heavy handed, which is leading me to the mechanical pencils for next lessons, which may help..
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Andy - It is mathematically completely correct .
But it is not "nice". It screams "Look I'm a mathematical exercise".
Perspective is only a tool. The advice was to draw first, use perspective to check for inconsistent proportions.
When using it to "construct" from imagination - as you did - the artist needs to guard against drawing unrealistic and impossible objects. (Of course this class assumes the aim to draw realistically.)
Those corners are far too sharp, they never can be less than 90 °. Test it out with a real box, when looking completely down on it, the corner is 90 °, when lowering the HL, it is becoming larger.




The cause is that you put the VP's far too close together.
It is OK for now, but in next class draw first, and preferably from real life for your own development.
Please move on to class 3 .
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Hi thanks for the advice, think I need to concentrate a bit longer on this lesson and take on board what you've said for the next lesson as well, thanks again...
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Re: Basics 101: Class 2 - Foundation of Perspective

Arnond I've got a question, on the picture with various boxes, that was the way I arranged them...Where I think i went wrong, i didn't sketch it out first, and worked out the perspectives as I went along..

As an artist do you make the choice to spread out the 2 vanishing points, even if in reality they are close together?
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As an artist do you make the choice to spread out the 2 vanishing points, even if in reality they are close together?
Andy, the point is, they are never so close together. The VP is a "fiction", a mathematical construction to ease seeing the correct proportions. There is no physical reality. The corners of the boxes define where the VP's will be. And as the corner can never be sharper than 90 °, the VP's will be defined far enough apart if you look carefully at what is really there. And yes, yes, our eyes are tricking us about perspective.
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That's very helpful thanks for your time
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