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Old 07-16-2007, 04:11 PM
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Golden Afternoon - Finished - Grasses In

Boy, this is the second time around for this painting and I am ready throw this one in the trash too. I love the photo and know what I want, but can't seem to pull it off.

Lots to be done, but thought I'd I stop and get some opinions. Good enough for my show, or move on to something else?



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Old 07-16-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

I love parts of it but do not understand the blue on the top of the pilings.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

Hi Kathryn, Im no expert, i think you are getting abit flustered as we do when we cant quite get that result we can see in our minds eye. Please dont throw it out, it does have potential, mrking pointed out the blue on top of the pilings, keep with it, im sorry im not any help here, but take a step back, relax and im sure you will have a winner here..
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

mrking - that is the strong sunlight coming down on top of those surfaces - it is tempered with some yellow, but that is not showing up in the photo

Thanks for the support Nicky - we'll see. I am frustrated with it at the moment.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

There is great "stuff" happening in this work. I love the reflection in the water and the depth to the upper lefthand corner. I do agree with mrking about the light blue. It is not so much the colors, but, at least on my screen, they lack dimension. They look flat, almost like empty holes. I know sunlight washes out depth often, but these need a bit more I believe. Don't trash it. You're not that far.

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mrking - that is the strong sunlight coming down on top of those surfaces - it is tempered with some yellow, but that is not showing up in the photo

Thanks for the support Nicky - we'll see. I am frustrated with it at the moment.

Interesting. Are the top of the pilings wet?

Can you post a ref image?
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

i like your reference picture too and see why you wanted to paint it ... i believe you might be trying to follow the reference too exactly ... i think the reference photo has the tops overexposed and the contrasts too severe ... i'd recommend taking artistic license and making the tops of the pilings very light colours that might exist in the piling itself and surrounding colours ... and showing it's texture ... then see how you feel about it ... the colours that you're putting into this painting are fabulous ... it wouldn't take too much to make it just *sing* ... you can do it too !!
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

This is exactly what I needed to know - thanks everybody - I never even thought of the tops being too light, or the wrong color.
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

I love the colours you have chosen for this one, Beautiful , I would keep going.
The addition of the green grasses would also look lovely.

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Hello,
Keep going! It will be great! The one thing unique to pastel is how quickly the painting changes when we push through this middle not sure stage and add and adjust colors and value.
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

There are two times during a painting that are sure to make me totally nuts: the first is when I've blocked it out and then am faced with what looks to me like a bunch of blobs that make no sense at all. The other is when I have something in my mind and I can't pull it off and the frustration is about to push me over the edge and the only way out is to rip the dang thing off and throw it in the trash. But most of the time, if I stay with it, something happens that makes the painting work well enough to at least keep, and often better than that. Sometimes it means that the painting turns out to be a different painting than I thought it was going to be. Other times I end up figuring out what it is that is getting in my way. Either way, I end up learning something, and feeling good enough about it that I am willing to put myself through the whole damn process again.

Some sort of sickness, I guess. Obviously, you've got it too. I like your painting. I bet the folks above have pinpointed the problem. I bet you can fix it. Go for it. Even if it makes the painting different from what you thought it was going to be. Heh heh.

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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

Kat, for me there's a drama to the photo that appeals, which you may have chosen to ignore. If so, that's certainly your choice to make (and thus ignore me), but the height difference between the first and second piling makes a nice stretch. It adds a rhythm I find interesting, a syncopation, if you will. Instead of a steady beat, the first one is a downbeat, then a hesitation before the second one hits my eye...

Now, you know I try not to be a slave to a photograph, but what I want to do is use the parts that really work, so for me that dramatic pause is interesting. That's right where the grasses reside, which adds another rhythm, or maybe what you could think of as the melody--a little interesting tidbit or light sparking my interest as it wraps around the beat.

I think your color work in the water is a good start. If you're turned on by this photo, I recommend going for it on this one! Usually the desire (inspiration) to paint a scene is worth far more than any amount of analysis, don't you think? (I remember the first one you did, too!)

Have some fun. Don't let the deadline scare you into being too safe.

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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

This is an exciting image. I like Deborah's comments on the rhythm and the nice contrasting note that the differently scaled posts make.
I am not clear whether your image is finished or in progress. If finished I haven't the sense of water in the oranges and yellows. That area looks like ground with yellowed grasses. In your ref I love those dark recesses in the posts and would like to see them in your painting---more of those base notes to conterpoint the melody. Definitely would like to see the green grasses as another cool contrast to the warm colors. Certainly do not trash this. It will be ,and really is already, a stunning piece, that should shine in your show.
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Re: Pitch It and Move On?

Hi Kathy - keep at it, or as someone advised me, put it to one side and come back in a few weeks or month's time!
For my two penneth worth I'd consider putting some of those grasses in, or maybe, if you don't want them, some ripples around a couple of the posts? Just a quick thought on my first impression.
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