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Old 07-23-2001, 06:21 PM
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Portrait Demonstration: Ruth in Pastels

I'm delighted that the step-by-step demo of my portrait of Ruth has been published. If I can answer any questions, please let me know.

If you haven't seen it yet, here's the link:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles/Sa...128/index.html

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Old 07-23-2001, 06:39 PM
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Great article, Sandra. You have inspired me to try. Thanks so much!!!
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Old 07-23-2001, 09:12 PM
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Congratulations Sandra

I enjoyed your article. Very informative.
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Old 07-23-2001, 09:18 PM
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Thanks for the step-by-step demonstration Sandra - very helpful, with a lovely end result.
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Splendid, useful posting!

I was very interested to hear about particulars of pastels, because this is a medium I have not really used. But I was especially impressed with the medium-transcending Basic Principles/Techniques explanations.

I hope we see more of these on Wet Canvass!
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Old 07-24-2001, 12:06 AM
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WOW!

You really do your homework.
I found it sort of inspiring and empowering. You are a hotshot and your techniques are very simple and it is great that you show how you use your computer to solve the tough stuff!
I am still floundering in how to produce...as in make it a living and a job, not a mystery or magic, and looking at how NON magical it is, that we run in the same track makes me feel more confident.
It is a great view of your style.
I would love to see how you approach your landscapes, since that is your prize winning skill!
Very grateful that you took the time.
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Dear Sandra,
What an incredible portrait! You made it look so easy, which I think is one of the trademarks of a great artist. I have printed out all the steps to save for future reference. Wish you could just hop over to Denver,CO and do a workshop. I, too, would love to see a landscape demo.
Thanks so very much for this wonderful demo.
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Loved your demo and how the portrait turned out, Sandra. I did mine last night while watching Law and Order reruns. I have no clue if it even resembles her, because the photo my printer was capable of producing from the image was pretty bad. But anyway, I put it in the Projects and will post it in Portraiture as that's where I found out about it -thanks again to you.
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Thank you all so much for your comments. I'm glad you found it useful.

Is no one going to say that tracing it from a computer print out is cheating?
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Sorry to disappoint you :P

Is a mahl stick cheating? Or buying paints and mediums?

How about a camera obscura, a ancient visual aid comparable to a projector (but without much zoom control)? or studying perspective and proportion and color theory?

How about using a grid? I think the Egyptians used those, and I doubt they were the first...

The Renaissance was Art and Science together, NOT coincidentally... Today some study the chemistry of mediums and paints and grounds - and I am terribly glad they do but I rarely do more than try to benefit from their discoveries. Am I cheating?

To see some detailed history and discussion of tracing and visual aids (ancient and new) in art, check out http://208.56.97.244/forum/Ultimate.cgi
Some of the opinions are strongly expressed, sometimes designed for shock value, and pretensious and/or annoying - but it's still an interesting site. Note: I do not vouch for accuracy of statements represented as fact there; I am not an art historian.

I do like some of the comments made there, that art is not a contest, that no optical aid MAKES the art, that guilt can be an amusing distraction, and that maybe the only cheating in art is plagerism i.e. saying you made a piece when somebody else did.


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Old 07-25-2001, 04:04 AM
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Thank you very much, Maria Gusta!

I was, BTW, quite prepared to argue my case but I see there is no need.
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Hi Sandra,
This is my first post on wetcanvas! I had to comment on 'is tracing cheating'? First let me say that your demo is great. I am an artist in the early stages of marketing and one of the things I wanted to do is portraiture. I began a year ago trying to do portraits (my medium is watercolor) and had no trouble with the drawing and likeness. However, when I went to paint it, I lost it all and the painting went from a very good drawing to a very bad painting. Over the past year I have worked very hard to get the painting end up to a sellable quality. Now that I am at a presentable stage, I find that the time it takes to draw the subject and get a good likeness is very time consuming. I work a full time day job and my art time is limited. I have used my computer to get the desired size and then trace it onto my paper. The trace basically gives you the right proportions, and then I draw in the finer details. Once you have the image down, what you do with it after that requires talent and ability to pull off a good portrait.

When looking at this from a business point of view, I found that in order to make the most of my 'producing' time this tool of tracing is wonderful. It enables me to produce more, and since the reason I want to do portraiture is to make money... well, you see my point there.

Thanks for a great demo, and bringing up this discussion.
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Sandra,

Just read your demo and really enjoyed it! Even though you worked from the photo you did a nice job capturing the character; interpreting, and building the colors in a dynamic way. Beautifully rendered.

Thank you!

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Thanks CathyD for your support.

Photoshop is a lot of money but is probably my most used piece of art equipment. It enables me to work through ideas much more quickly - and to try out things I probably wouldn't have considered. And when it all goes horribly wrong - there is the undo button.
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Thank you, Diane. Glad you enjoyed it.
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