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Old 02-04-2020, 10:59 AM
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Did better with a #6 round than the flats I was using before (newest one on the right). Next time I need to plan my attack on the values of the bridges better!
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@Kathy and Kevin: you're very welcome.
International shipping costs are a pain, but if you buy more than one, there should be combined postage.
In my Googling I came across another hit from wetcanvas, another Aussie saying: "These brushes are great!"
Little knowing they would be so hard to access, I guess
Anyhow, I can't seem to find an equivalent brush at Dick Blick, I talked to their help desk, and they were stymied.
I just sent an email to Rosemary Brush Co, their site lists *similar* looking riggers, so they may be able to help.
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I've seen several brushes that are styled like your pic on Amazon but yours seem to have longer brushes that what is listed.

Here's one where the advertising pic looks correct but in the reviews someone posted a picture indicating that they are a lot shorter in life:
https://www.amazon.com/Art-Shop-Skip... H0KREJXSM96CJ


Here's another one that doesn't look as long:
https://www.amazon.com/KINGART-Origi... BRJRSWGP2S180


Lol... "The game is afoot"..


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in the reviews someone posted a picture indicating that they are a lot shorter in life:
No, its a different colour, also, its too cheap.

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Here's another one that doesn't look as long:
No, it looks shorter, and is also too cheap.
The price point I think you're looking for would be around $AU27.00 or $US20.00.
That's top shelf pricing for a synthetic, but of course, half the price of a sable.
I suspect if something is WAY cheaper, common sense says its probably a different brush.
I'm awaiting a response from Rosemary Brushes, they had a few that looked promising


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Instead of artists' brushes, you might look into automotive pinstripping brushes or sign painter's brushes.
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Instead of artists' brushes, you might look into automotive pinstripping brushes or sign painter's brushes.
Ted, they are different beasts, IMHO.
I've got some signwriting liners, and they are beautiful brushes for their purpose, but the rigger I've been referring to is a fabulous general purpose drawing brush for setting up a painting.
The pinstripers and script brushes tend to be even bodied brushes with a chiselled end.
The Neef rigger has a fatter body and tapers to a point, allowing a variety of line and thickness.
By flattening the brush, or varying the angle of attack, quite expressive lines are possible.
Of course, the brushes you refer to have their place, although I've found more use for them in illustration and lettering, but that's just me


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I sent a query about a similar rigger to the Neef 502 to the Rosemary Brush Company, and have received a reply:
They said they didn't have an exact match, having checked it out online, but recommended the Shiraz Rigger as an equivalent.
My correspondent said it was one of their most popular riggers, so I'm tempted to place an order just to see what its like...
And they carry some "half riggers" that also look tempting

https://www.rosemaryandco.com/waterc...er_name=rigger




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Excellent info.
I'm gonna see if I can find a US seller and pick up a few sizes.

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I ordered a couple of Rosemary Ivory brushes, they are lovely but much bigger than the same size in other brushes.
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I ordered a couple of Rosemary Ivory brushes, they are lovely but much bigger than the same size in other brushes.
Thanks for that. Just an FYI, they do have a brush size chart for every brush.
I did note that sizes for different brushes varied, so that a "number 6" may be a different length and diameter depending on the brush style.
The chart would be worth checking, IMHO.


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yard stick, T square, whatever is handy.
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Wow, you have to admire that kind of skill...

Kathie, if you're going to rule lines (in paint) on a canvas, there are some tricks to make it easier.

ONE:
First, you need a rigger, I suggest a number 8.
There are smaller and larger riggers, but they all form a point at the tip, so a big rigger can theoretically make as fine a line as a small rigger.
I use a Supreme Taklon Rigger, not a sable, they're cheaper, just as good (IMHO) and last 5 times as long.
I got sick of wearing out sable riggers, till I switched to Taklon.
The number 8 is the sweet spot (IMHO), its stiff enough to control, holds enough paint, and easily forms a tip to draw a line.

TWO:
Second, you need to get your paint to the right "ink like consistency".
You can't draw a fine line with thick paint.
The paint must be thinned with a lean medium (IMHO).
Some paints are too sticky, some don't have enough pigment.
You have to experiment to find just the right colours that will thin down to an inky consistency and be strong enough for your needs.

THREE:
Rulers: You don't need the expertise of the signwriter in Ron's link, though "respect" to anyone who has it.
You can simply lay your canvas (or panel) on a table, and draw your line with a ruler.
Treat the rigger like an ordinary pencil, and guide the bristles along the ruler, it's surprisingly easy.
You'll want to practice on a spare canvas for a bit
And, because inky paint may want to seep under the edge of the ruler, taping a bit of card underneath the ruler, to keep the edge slightly up from the surface, is a good idea



I'm often ruling lines, grids, guides etc on my canvas, as you can see.
The number 8 Taklon rigger is the tool to get the job done

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Thank you ! I will go practice with the paint consistency now!
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Yes im going to save the link to Jeffros instructions
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Thank you ! I will go practice with the paint consistency now!
You're very welcome, Simona.
Remember, you're looking for a paint that's still highly pigmented when thinned down.
Also, it can't be too "sticky".
Hard to explain, but if it sticks to the brush, and don't go onto the canvas, you'll know what I mean
I generally use Art Spectrum, a local brand of Artist's Oil Paints, but their Burnt Sienna is sticky.
Langridge Burnt Sienna ( more expensive, but more pigment ) is a different formulation, is not sticky at all, and flows off the brush readily.
So experimentation with your colours is the key


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Re: Straight lines

I don't use a special brush. I use an L-profile (instead of a Mahlstick), so I can make paint lines as well as curved lines.
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