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Old 07-24-2016, 10:11 AM
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This is what I found when traveling in Internet jungle. They are in about alphabetical order.

Adel lives in Turkey and has some cooperation with Eberhard Faber and/or Faber-Castell:

http://www.kumusika.co.zw/Data/Listi...0383__zoom.jpg

http://artworxgeelong.com.au/store/i...encils36_2.jpg

Alpino 36 sets made in Spain:

http://www.alpino.eu/alpino/wp-conte...al-597x597.jpg

http://www.alpino.eu/alpino/wp-conte...05-597x597.jpg

Early 1990s vintage Bruynzeel pastel pencils in the traditional 45 colour tin:

http://www.linnes.nl/wp-content/uplo...otloden-07.jpg

http://www.linnes.nl/wp-content/uplo...otloden-06.jpg

Derwent Lakelands are made in Indonesia by Faber-Castell:

http://yellowbee.my/webshaper/pcm/pi...0Pencil-l1.jpg

(PS: Whoops, this set says Made in UK. My Lakelands are older and made in Indonesia
– and the hues and numbers are so identical with FCs that it can be no coincidence.)

Eberhard Faber Colorbrite is probably less known on this side of Atlantic:

https://pencilsandotherthings.files....401_091533.jpg

A bunch of Faber-Castell Multicolor sets – made in Brazil?

http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...6e3bdb8da1.jpg

Faber-Castell Colors of Nature 12 set. I have a 24 set in acceptable quality and there was also a 36 set.

http://cdn-sa.pricena.com/files/imag...f93fb29095.jpg

Finetec Skin Colours in an interesting store:

https://www.bookstore.umn.edu/viewPr....V 5SCVBJUq1t

Hema is a Dutch Internet shop:

http://images.hema.nl/products/185-x...uctzoom_rd.jpg

I have no idea where Küelox brand comes from – China?

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1GREMH...uble-color.jpg

Master Art 65 colour cardboard box:

http://colorfuladults.com/wp-content...-Books-0-1.jpg


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Mitsubishi Polycolor – the design suggests that this is from 1980s or a budget-priced brand:

http://www.pencils.jp/data/pencil/pr...216_7d2a11.jpg

A Uni / Mitsubishi 36 set:

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1nzQEH...int-b-font.jpg

This Uni 36 set is interesting – the colour chart imitates Faber-Castell numbers and names and so do the pencils! Are they made by Faber-Castell of Indonesia or a pirate copy?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/i...olor_chart.jpg

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp...rie/uwc36c.jpg

Uni Pericia wooden box:

http://www.engeika.com/data/engeika/...406_661000.jpg

I wonder if Munhwa pencils are cousins of Mungyo pastels. These sets look neat:

http://www.innercirclebox.com/ebay/k...rs%20set. jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/97MAAO...1Tk/s-l300.jpg

Pentalic 24 set in an interesting store:

https://www.bookstore.umn.edu/viewPr....V 5SCjxJUq1t

A cardboard box of 72 RoseArts:

http://roseart.com/sites/all/files/k...hoto%202.1.jpg

The colour range of Sax 36 set looks suspiciously like Koh-i-noorish:

http://in2.ccio.co/f2/18/w2/51RztSmbvAL.jpg?iw=300

Sense may be an endemic Scandinavian brand:

https://z2.adlibris.com/35/2193e339-...600&height=600

http://media1.bondmoran.nu/2015/09/m...e-tr%C3%A4.jpg

Sets like this invade supermarkets before Christmas (usually nameless) – and oh boy how awful they are!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....288632963_.jpg

http://www.voordeelmuis.nl/img/gif/1320/1320844.gif

Is this brand called Zhenghua?

http://g02.s.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1HwSPH...ncil-of-36.jpg

And the ultimate page for those who think they have seen everything:

https://wanelo.com/shop/color-tin

Additions are welcome!

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Mitsubishi happens to have hands in so many markets, it never ceases to amaze me actually. Thanks for this super interesting information and pictures of tins I have never seen before.
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Just a few more...

Cergio 36 set:

http://gi.esmplus.com/ssisports/ebay...ter36color.jpg

Fantasia brand or brands sets:

http://www.bestcoloredpencils.com/wp...ils.jpg?9f7ab8

https://www.enasco.com/prod/images/p.../VC154318l.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1CtbVElx7L.jpg

...aww yess...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=949590

If I had limitless credit I would be drowning in pencils.

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Wow. A limited Fashion Colours set of 36 FC Polys:

http://luxurylaunches.com/other_stuf...ng-pencils.php

http://luxurylaunches.com/wp-content...ed-pencils.jpg

Caran d'Ache Swisscolors in red tin:

http://arteire.com/wp-content/upload...etal-Box-1.jpg

There were black and green tins too (water-soluble and non-soluble) as well as a a wooden box of 'nameless' 1282 brand although with 30 colours only. Later these were replaced with Classicolor which has now evolved to Fancolor.

More Faber-Castell Multicolor sets; made in Brazil?

http://thumbs4.picclick.com/d/l400/p...ncils-X-33.jpg

http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...2cb52130a8.jpg

Old (Derwent) Lakeland tins:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...55e9327618.jpg

http://www.69aliverpool.co.uk/image/...64-912x684.jpg

http://www.oldshopstuff.com/Portals/...Size/31161.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...b94a655629.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6383ea13be.jpg (looks like 1970s typography)

Simbalion "oil colored pencils" 36 set:

http://www.thecoloringshop.com/wp-co...y--600x457.jpg

I'd like a Baoke 48 set:

http://www.thecoloringshop.com/wp-co...rt-600x464.jpg

*purr purr purr*

A TrueColor 48 set:

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1X0YhK...gh-Quality.jpg

MuHui 72 sets:

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Wpp9J...ont-font-b.jpg

A vintage Bruynzeel 12 tin:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...94178aefb3.jpg

This is something I'd love - Stabilo Softcolors in disguise in this 1990s Bruynzeel Design 45 set:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...V7ytq/$_35.JPG

Sketch and Sniff:

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thin...&tid=137778779

Creatology 72 cardboard box:

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thin...&tid=145428649

The largest cardboard box I've seen - RoseArt 100:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517IlqXzsXL.jpg

A Fantasia 24 set for children, I suppose:

http://products-import.s3.amazonaws....pg_242x242.jpg

Anybody found anything else?

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Sketch and Sniff:

(I'll be damned - I thought I was the only one who did that.)

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(I'll be damned - I thought I was the only one who did that.
In fact some brands have been and are recognizable by sniffing them! Early 1990s Stabilo Softcolor and several Bruynzeels had a wax-like smell, so did Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor in early 1990s, Caran d'Ache Classicolor smelled like white glue (polyvinyl acetate), some recent Stabilos have a rather pleasant fresh-lumber-like scent.

If a brand has a pungent solvent stink, it's very probably cheap and made in China - like all four Mont Marte sets I have.

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Okay, I ordered the finetec skintones. Will let you know how they work for me.
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Okay, I ordered the finetec skintones. Will let you know how they work for me.
This is the Lyra Color Giant skin tone set for comparison:

http://media.tumblr.com/58ebc7baee8d...elr1qa4320.jpg

By the way, if anyone has any of these 36 colour or larger tins (mint or slightly used), I'd be delighted to get one in my paws. I can pay by sending a Bruynzeel Expression 36 tin, a Stabilo Aquacolor 36 tin or a Maped 48 cardboard-box set (lower middle class), a Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth 36 set in wrong Chinese tin (they came in a plastic wallet) or a Staedtler Karat 36 tin (upper middle class), a Faber-Castell Polychromos or Albrecht Dürer 36 ~ 48 ~ 60 tin with original or customized colour range, or almost any Derwent 72 tin. I actually do have several surplus sets and I can easily get those I don't have. Please send me a personal message if you're willing to swap.

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... a Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth 36 set ...
A Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth Polycolor 36 set, that is.

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This Lyra Rembrandt set might be from 1970s:

https://img1.etsystatic.com/001/0/56...21211_op44.jpg

There are several modern sets that I also would like to get: Bruynzeel Design or Design Aquarel 48 set, Cretacolor Karmina or SoHo Urban Artist 72 set, Cretacolor Marino 36 set, Daler-Rowney Watercolour 36 set, Faber-Castell Art Grip Aquarell 60 set, Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor 72 set, Marco Raffine or Marco Renoir 72 or even 48 set, Staedtler 'nameless' or Luna 48 box, Talens Van Gogh Colour or Watercolour 60 set. New or slightly used as long as nothing's missing.

Like I wrote, I can give a Bruynzeel Expression 36 tin, a Stabilo Aquacolor 36 tin or a Maped 48 cardboard-box set (lower middle class), a Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth Polycolor 36 set in wrong Chinese tin (they came in a plastic wallet) or a Staedtler Karat 36 tin (upper middle class), a Faber-Castell Polychromos or Albrecht Dürer 36 ~ 48 ~ 60 tin with original or customized colour range, or almost any Derwent 72 tin.

Any interest to swapping?

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I've been vaguely aware of Spectrum Noir pencils but now it looks like they are going strong:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uHyyTmbMjK...lsINFO06_1.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e920a12536.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T2NF4xoJNH...0/IMG_4071.JPG

The idea about dividing 120 colours into Essentials, Primaries, Floral, Marine and Nature sets is interesting. Has anybody tried them yet?

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I've been vaguely aware of Spectrum Noir pencils but now it looks like they are going strong:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uHyyTmbMjK...lsINFO06_1.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e920a12536.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T2NF4xoJNH...0/IMG_4071.JPG

The idea about dividing 120 colours into Essentials, Primaries, Floral, Marine and Nature sets is interesting. Has anybody tried them yet?

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I bought a set around a year and a half ago when I was working at a local art store. I found them to to be brittle and they do not lay down much color. They kept breaking when I tried sharpening them. They also smell like the old art sets I use to get for Christmas as a kid, with a bunch of cheap pencils and crayons that never worked well. They seemed to be more for marketed for scrapbookers.

Interestingly enough, shortly after I bought them I noticed they were no longer available on the Blick website. And now they have been replaced with "Spectrum Noir ColourBlend Pencils."

http://www.dickblick.com/products/sp...rblend-pencils

I'm not sure if they updated the formula in the pencils or just rebranded them, but the sets are still named the same and have the same colors. The only thing I can see that has changed is the shaft color of the pencils and the new ColourBlend Pencils have color names, while mine just have numbers on them.
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I've been vaguely aware of Spectrum Noir pencils but now it looks like they are going strong:

The idea about dividing 120 colours into Essentials, Primaries, Floral, Marine and Nature sets is interesting.
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Hmmm - themed sets . . .

I've been curious about the 6 different themed sets of (12) watercolor pencils sold by Prima Marketing (there's a little duplication between the sets, so it's not a full range of 72):

http://prima.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834...82ee970c-700wi

I'm positive that Prima doesn't actually produce anything but branding. Following your hint and looking into Spectrum Noir, I find that SN have a collection of 4 sets of (24) AquaBlend watercolor pencils:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1083/3828/products/Spectrum_Noir_Aqua_Blend_Full_96pc_set_PDF.jpg?v=1 456301766

Compare the id numbers and colors of the Primas (1st linked above) to this Spectrum Noir color chart:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e920a12536.jpg

and I think we may have where the Prima pencils come from.

Maybe . . . ?

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I've been vaguely aware of Spectrum Noir pencils but now it looks like they are going strong:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uHyyTmbMjK...lsINFO06_1.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e920a12536.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T2NF4xoJNH...0/IMG_4071.JPG

The idea about dividing 120 colours into Essentials, Primaries, Floral, Marine and Nature sets is interesting. Has anybody tried them yet?

Heikki


i also want know more these. these indeed have some nice looking uses. for uses where hue is more important than lightfastness. and i dont say they ahve poor lightfastness becouse i dont know.
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