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Old 01-07-2020, 01:34 PM
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van Gogh Sunflowers - with new van Gogh OP's!

My wonderful husband was apparently listening to me when I started babbling about wanting to try the van Gogh oil pastels. For Christmas, he gifted me with the entire box set!












What a guy!

First impressions: they handle a lot like my Mungyos, at least on the Arches Oil paper, my usual paper of choice. They do crumble a bit more, but are still soft enough to be scooped up easily and mashed into the paper, so they build up layers quickly.

My main nitpick is that, seeing the full set of 60, apparently no consideration has been given to expand the greens to include a range of olives, or expand the range of grays. I'm used to having olive green, a light olive, a yellow olive, and an olive brown - all terrific hues. Both my Mungyo and Neopastel sets have this range, so I suppose I took it for granted. Same thing with grays - Mungyo in particular is hard to beat.

Anyway - I thought I'd be cute and make my first painting with these a van Gogh copy. I picked one from his Sunflower painting series, the one with the blue background (as opposed to another famous one with a yellow background). 12x16" Arches oil paper.










The set has a nice range of yellows and a few good ochres. Although I wanted to paint with nothing but the van Goghs, I did grab my Neopastel olives and a couple of Mungyo ochres. The vase highlight is Sennelier white.


A couple of wip photos here.

This is a loose sketch with soft pastel pencil:










Trying to work from left to right, going first to the background flowers that are covered up the most.















The van Gogh op's blended great with the Neopastels and Mungyos, and I ended up with great texture without a lot of effort. A couple closeups:


















All in all, I'm super excited to have this set in my toolbox. Any and all comments welcomed and appreciated. Thanks for looking!
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Re: van Gogh Sunflowers - with new van Gogh OP's!

Congratulations on your new set Lovely still life!
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Thanks, Christel! (Although I can't take any credit for the still life design, we owe that to Vincent.)
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What a sweet Christmas present, Terri, you did Vincent proud!

The textures are great, especially love the vase! You can just about feel the vase and the weight of it. 😉

Thank you for sharing your process, always a great learning tool for the viewer!

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Beautifully done. Just tried some oil pastels recently at an art class and still learning to work with them although I can bet the better brands are easier to work with.
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What a sweet Christmas present, Terri, you did Vincent proud!

The textures are great, especially love the vase! You can just about feel the vase and the weight of it. 😉

Thank you for sharing your process, always a great learning tool for the viewer!

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Thanks so much, Mary! I love texture in oil pastels, and these OP's made it easy.

Whenever I remember to get good work-in-progress photos, I will post them. I love to see everyone else's, too - always interested in seeing how we all work! It's helpful.
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Beautifully done. Just tried some oil pastels recently at an art class and still learning to work with them although I can bet the better brands are easier to work with.


Thank you for the kind words, Lil! Nice to see you!

Yes, this is a medium where the cheaper the product, literally the harder they become! OP's are only made up of the pigment, wax and oil, and the artist grade ones (even good student grade) have more of all of it, so they glide along the paper. The cheaper ones can be very hard, tend to crumble a lot and not blend easily. It's easy for beginners to think they're doing something wrong, when it's actually the OP making the work more difficult.

I hope you stick around and have a play with them. There's not a lot of us using them, so it can be hard to get information online. This forum can really help you learn.
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Hah, Van Gogh with the Van Goghs! Love it, and love your version. Much more pleasant on the eyes than the original. The textures are really beautiful.

I'm loving my Van Goghs too, really nice oil pastels. I'd prefer a lot more neutrals if I'm honest, but if I were to design a set of oil pastels it would contain one red, one blue, one yellow, one green, and about 80 different neutrals, browns and flesh colours
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Wow! great job Terri. The texture is just awesome. It just pops out and has tangible, life like feel. Thanks for those closeups. You're putting those van gogh's to good work.
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Hi Terri,

Oh, it was so sweet of him to take a notice and give you this set as a Xmas present! this is actually a very good set with some great colors. Though one wishes there were more greys, pale warm grey is a fantastic color. I also like the pale yellow and indigo. But I only have 8 sticks. A friend of mine owns the full set, she says the colorless blender is good, and the pearl color can create fun effects.

I think it's okay Van Gogh lacks some colors like olives or more greys - after all, it's just 60 colors against 72 colors of Mungyo (also Van Gogh have about 4 metallic colors: gold, silver, bronze (?) and pearl, which means less room for regular colors. Btw, when I run out of my Specialists, I will probably buy the Van Goghs first instead of buying that expensive Specialist set. The square form is of course irreplacible, but I found out many of VG's colors are close to some pretty colors of Sakura Specialist. Besides, I can buy Van Gogh OPs open stock in Russia.

Van Gogh is less opaque than Mungyo Gallery but more opaque than the Specialist. Also, I found that VG takes much less layers than Mungyo Gallery, but probably it's not much of an issue on a toothier surface. Glad it works well on Arches

VG is a great complement to Mungyos and with some Senns on top it can be used for nearly any subject/type of painting - at least based on what I've seen in works of various Russian oil pastelists.

You've done a terrific job! LOVE this texture! And your palette is so lovely!
I wonder what the Dutch text says
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Hah, Van Gogh with the Van Goghs! Love it, and love your version. Much more pleasant on the eyes than the original. The textures are really beautiful.

I'm loving my Van Goghs too, really nice oil pastels. I'd prefer a lot more neutrals if I'm honest, but if I were to design a set of oil pastels it would contain one red, one blue, one yellow, one green, and about 80 different neutrals, browns and flesh colours


Oh, you crack me up! Thank you for the comments!

I agree about the van Goghs. It's funny how we all lean towards our favorite palettes. I think with all your experience with the Zorn palette, you're able to make the most with primary colors than most of us. Your work with neutrals is always amazing, they never look like neutrals in your capable hands.
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Wow! great job Terri. The texture is just awesome. It just pops out and has tangible, life like feel. Thanks for those closeups. You're putting those van gogh's to good work.


Thanks so much, Rich! Lovely to see you popping in.

If you haven't had play with the van Gogh OP's, you might like them - they built up texture in a very few layers, it was surprising to me. They did well on the Arches paper, and I can't imagine they wouldn't do well on the Pastelmat, too, one of your faves.

I had a lot of fun with this one.
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Oh, it was so sweet of him to take a notice and give you this set as a Xmas present! this is actually a very good set with some great colors. Though one wishes there were more greys, pale warm grey is a fantastic color. I also like the pale yellow and indigo. But I only have 8 sticks. A friend of mine owns the full set, she says the colorless blender is good, and the pearl color can create fun effects.

I think it's okay Van Gogh lacks some colors like olives or more greys - after all, it's just 60 colors against 72 colors of Mungyo (also Van Gogh have about 4 metallic colors: gold, silver, bronze (?) and pearl, which means less room for regular colors. Btw, when I run out of my Specialists, I will probably buy the Van Goghs first instead of buying that expensive Specialist set. The square form is of course irreplacible, but I found out many of VG's colors are close to some pretty colors of Sakura Specialist. Besides, I can buy Van Gogh OPs open stock in Russia.

Van Gogh is less opaque than Mungyo Gallery but more opaque than the Specialist. Also, I found that VG takes much less layers than Mungyo Gallery, but probably it's not much of an issue on a toothier surface. Glad it works well on Arches

VG is a great complement to Mungyos and with some Senns on top it can be used for nearly any subject/type of painting - at least based on what I've seen in works of various Russian oil pastelists.

You've done a terrific job! LOVE this texture! And your palette is so lovely!
I wonder what the Dutch text says


Thanks, Mira! Yes, I noted those metallics in my set. It's just a choice of the manufacturer, isn't it? I'd much rather see more grays or greens. You're right, that 72-piece set of Mungyos has a wonderful spread of colors, and I agree they are more opaque. When I really want to cover something up, I know a Mungyo will do it easily compared to Neopastels and especially to Senns and the Cray Pas Specialists.

The Neopastels compare very well with the Mungyo in their spread, too.
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Hey, someone noticed!

In van Gogh's painting, this area is where he painted his signature: just "Vincent." I didn't want to ignore the lettering because I liked how it looked, but it seemed wrong to paint his signature (or worse, put mine there).

So, given that Dutch was his native tongue, I looked up "I love you" in Dutch. That is "Ik hou van jou." I used colored pencil.
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