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    DaveGhmn
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        I”m wondering (with some nostalgic regret) whether old-line, quality French easels are becoming extinct.

        The really low reliability of $40-50-60 Chinese knock-offs must be having a negative effect. Plus the quality complaints I see here around the recent, Chinese-built Jullians… not only the originator but also in the past, the premier marque.

        The proliferation of nifty, shiny light-weight plein air options must also be a factor. (Despite my opinion that they are mostly not suited for areas with real dirt or water, i.e. actual plein air.)

        My 1950s-era MABEF, despite horrendous abuse by a former owner (and hours of rebuilding by me when I took delivery), carries a certain lovability factor I’m not getting anywhere else. But maybe that’s only because I put the hours in it…

        Asking because more than 200 people have looked at a MABEF I placed in the Swap Shop with nary a comment & no counter-offers…

        Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

        --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

        #1206981
        **Kathryn**
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            Is there a Swap Shop here? or where? I have an expensive video that is more for beginners to intermediate that I’d like to sell…..

            I suggest putting this on ebay. Jullian easels are still around. My first plein air easle was a cheap (Chinese) half box for about $22.I kept losing the screws and being taller with some arthritis, the bending down caused pain. I now have a Soltek pro. It’s a big improvement and overall I love it and will keep it for life, but I wish it was lighter.

            #1206974
            DaveGhmn
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                Kathryn, thanks for joining this threadbare… er thread.

                Swap shop is here: https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=83

                There’s a sticky at the top of the Swap Shop with the rules, but apparently most people ignore them.

                After no response via the Swap Shop here (but with plenty of looks), I do have it on eBay. Not much action there either, so far.

                One of the tweaks I did to the one I have on sale is to provide positive stops for all the hardware… none of them are going to fall off in the wilds (or at home).

                If your Soltek’s legs freeze up, as they are wont to do, you might enjoy a Gloucester (AKA Anderson) easel. Can be set up such that I have to reach up to the canvas (I’m 6′ 4″). Can’t be blown over. Beautiful wood and brass, but it does have some weight to it, 9-12 pounds. Also, it takes up a large area when fully set up — you can set it up more compactly if you want.

                Two flavors exist.

                (1) A not-too-bad and affordable Chinese copy from Jerry’s, the Beauport – http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/easels/travel-and-outdoor-easels/beauport-large-format-outdoor-easel.htm

                (2) The exquisite and expensive, Vermont-made Take-It-Easel: http://www.takeiteasel.com/

                I’ve tweaked my Beauport to make it as effective as the Take-It-Easel, but it took some time and effort to do that. If the $250 – $300 price differential, Beauport to T-I-E, is just chump change to you, by all means go for the T-I-E. A lot of Beauport purchasers later get the T-I-E.

                Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

                --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

                #1206979
                Flanagan
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                    Sigh. Yes, I do think quality French easels are a thing of the past. I purchased a new Jullian 5 years ago. Now granted, it has taken a lot of plane trips and has suffered some abuse from getting lugged around. But it should still be kicking. Nah. It’s now a table easel because it just can’t stand up anymore. Meanwhile, a friend has a Jullian that’s 25 years old and it’s built like a tank. Still going strong.

                    #1206975
                    DaveGhmn
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                        What has befallen your Jullian? It’s of an age that should still be tank-like. Legs break?

                        Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

                        --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

                        #1206980
                        DaveCrow
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                            Just returned home from the Publisher’s Invitational in the Adirondacks. Saw many styles and makes of easels. Everything from artist-made contraptions to shiny Solteks. There a number of French easels in use, and the majority of those seem to have been Julians.

                            The market certainly offers artists many options beyond the French Easel. That may have something to do with it. Sadly as we become an increasingly throw away society the standards of quality seem to slip.

                            "Let the paint be paint" --John Marin

                            #1206976
                            DaveGhmn
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                                The market certainly offers artists many options beyond the French Easel. That may have something to do with it. Sadly as we become an increasingly throw away society the standards of quality seem to slip.

                                True, especially the second sentence. That, and the fact that a long-faltering economy has driven many of us to seek out the cheapest offering automatically, knowing that there’s more than a chance that good quality may not be there.

                                Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

                                --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

                                #1206972
                                PCool
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                                    I do not think quality french easels are on life support just yet. Although the Julian’s are pricey, the price is small compared to other types (pochades and tripods, Solteks) is still a good bang for the buck. Hope you sold your easel.

                                    #1206977
                                    DaveGhmn
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                                        Thanks, PCool. And yes, sold, but outside of WC, to a guy making his living with his work. He had just tossed out a Chinese knock-off that had died, so he knew whereof I spoke when I described the MABEF.

                                        Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

                                        --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

                                        #1206970
                                        Profi9le
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                                            I love the French easel. Heavy, yes, and requiring the skill of a juggler to set up. But a good one is well-made and will last literally decades. But as you say, the good ones seem harder to find! I treasure a few I bought at estate sales that are made of hard maple with good brass hardware. Even today’s Mabefs and Jullians aren’t as good as they were, and the Chinese elmwood ones are just plain lousy. Great for students or people who aren’t sure about the whole art business, but they’ll last only about a year before something “goes.”

                                            Michael Chesley Johnson AIS MPAC PSA
                                            www.MChesleyJohnson.com

                                            #1206978
                                            DaveGhmn
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                                                I love the French easel. Heavy, yes, and requiring the skill of a juggler to set up. But a good one is well-made and will last literally decades.

                                                I keep hoping to find some secret retail place that carries quality goods, but it seems all have disappeared.

                                                I bought the Frenchie I recently sold as a replacement for my 50s-era MABEF, but then couldn’t bring myself to replace the old one.

                                                I acquired the the old one in a decrepit state some years ago, had to cobble up the entire canvas holder superstructure (previous owner had stripped it off :confused: ), and still am amused by one wondrously warped leg – must have been set up in the middle of a stream.

                                                But it’s practically indestructable, and Jullian’s original design was and still is brilliant.

                                                Stapleton Kearns showed me an excellent technique for set-up, but it’s on the verge of pornographic, so I’d get in trouble describing it here.

                                                Judging a Manet from the point of view of Bouguereau, the Manet has not been finished. Judging a Bouguereau from the point of view of Manet, the Bouguereau has not been begun.

                                                --Robert Henri, The Art Spirit

                                                #1206971
                                                Profi9le
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                                                    :)

                                                    Michael Chesley Johnson AIS MPAC PSA
                                                    www.MChesleyJohnson.com

                                                    #1206973
                                                    PCool
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                                                        Dave :).

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