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Old 01-14-2010, 11:02 PM
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Prickly Pear, 99.9% PanPastel.

This is my second PanPastel, 5x7", on Soft Umber Colourfix Fine Tooth Pastel Paper. This time I used the triangular shaped sponge for almost all of this painting and found that I was able to do some fine line work by using an edge of the tip of the sponge. This allowed me to make short strokes, swiping my pan frequently between strokes to do a curved edge.

The area that looks sorta purple began as orange tint but then I decided I needed more contrast with the bloom so I worked over it with a mixture of the magenta and violet which gave me a smokey purple haze. I think I'll keep that color in mind for future projects.

Later this month I may buy the shades, and then the tints in March.

In the interest of full disclosure I did use a pastel pencil for the thorns on the pads and on the bud to the left. The colors on this photo are closer to the pastel IRL than the two I posted on a separate thread in the gallery section.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

I like your smoky purple haze, that is beautiful! Thanks for posting this. I love this painting.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Looks good, Linda. Thanks for the info on your smokey haze purple.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Question: How do your pieces respond after you apply spray fixative?


I used my new pan pastels on a surface coated with colourfix primer, but the pastel will come off if touched. So I applied spray fixative, which seemed to dissolve and remove the light colours.

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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

EP, the product Spectrafix is highly recommended for no changes when sprayed.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

EP, I own some SpectraFix fixative and it's true -- it doesn't change the colors at all. However, using a fixative doesn't mean necessarily that a pastel won't change if touched. I'd still be very careful not to touch them or let the cat run over the paintings. It's more for making sure the colors stick to the paper when it's tilted or something.

Also the SpectraFix mister spatters. I found laying it on pretty heavy was a better way to use it than the lighter coats I used with spray fixatives. This may curl up thinner papers, though it's fine on 140lb watercolor paper or the same with Colourfix primer on it, or Colourfix paper (which is on that heavy stuff).

PastelMat doesn't need fixative, it's so much of a joy to use with Pans you may want to try some.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

I got an email today that the PP trays are available. http://www.panpastel.com/products.html
Don't know $ or availability yet.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

I got the same notice today. I know Dakota Art Pastels have them listed at $10.50 for the 20 pan size. Don't know if they have them yet or not. The notice only said they have been shipped to suppliers.
The darn s/h at Dakota is almost as much as one of the trays!
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

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Prickly Pear, 99.9% PanPastel.

This is my second PanPastel, 5x7", on Soft Umber Colourfix Fine Tooth Pastel Paper. This time I used the triangular shaped sponge for almost all of this painting and found that I was able to do some fine line work by using an edge of the tip of the sponge. This allowed me to make short strokes, swiping my pan frequently between strokes to do a curved edge.

The area that looks sorta purple began as orange tint but then I decided I needed more contrast with the bloom so I worked over it with a mixture of the magenta and violet which gave me a smokey purple haze. I think I'll keep that color in mind for future projects.

Later this month I may buy the shades, and then the tints in March.

In the interest of full disclosure I did use a pastel pencil for the thorns on the pads and on the bud to the left. The colors on this photo are closer to the pastel IRL than the two I posted on a separate thread in the gallery section.

Wow! Striking, texana6! Great going! The Soft Umber Colourfix is my favorite color---well, my "default color." Aubergine is my other great favorite, in general, but for PanPs, I like the paler colors more since it goes on so wonderfully sheer-ly. And I do think you'll be happy with the addition of the shades. Do you mean the newest darkest? They are grand! Enjoy enjoy!!! Donna ;-}
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

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Question: How do your pieces respond after you apply spray fixative?


I used my new pan pastels on a surface coated with colourfix primer, but the pastel will come off if touched. So I applied spray fixative, which seemed to dissolve and remove the light colours.

Thanks,

Hi, eyepaint! The way to apply spray fixative is to spray on one very quick, even, once-over spray of fix---and then walk away for at least two minutes while the fix dries. Then come back and spray again---once over very quickly---then walk away! Repeat as many times as necessary to get the coverage you need. This way (yes, it takes a bit of time---FAR less than it took to paint the painting!!!) you never get darkening of your work!

Now, I very rarely find it necessary to fix my PanPastel paintings. I only do when I am layering a LOT of levels or laying on a very heavy, thick layer of PanP. Oh---I also fix if I need to isolate previous layers from a new layer where I do not want to disturb the under color---a bit like glazing an oil painting.

Heavy spraying will darken pastel---and I have also used that to advantage when I needed to darken a particular area. It can be a quick and easy way to darken a corner rather than repainting it. You don't want to get the fixative on too heavily or it will make a hard coating that will not work with (match) the rest of the painting.

But---with PanPastels, most of the time you don't need to fix at all! Yea! Donna ;-}
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

You're so right about that, Donna! Especially since I got into the PastelMat, I don't use fixative at all on it.

But even on Colourfix sometimes it doesn't need it. It didn't really on the Colourfix primed canvas board.
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Still wish there was a way to set it well enough that I could paint on canvas and forget the glass framing with these wonderful sheer colors! Pam
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

FINALLY received my trays today from Dakota!!! Yeah!!! So much easier to use and to store - they should have come out with these right away.

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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Yea!!!!!, Lynn! They really are marvelous! And I know that the trays have been part of the plans for a long time, but it's amazing allllll the considerations and test pieces and finessing, etc. that went on just to get that "right version!" and then arranging for the manufacturer and then getting that done and then----and then----! So it's great to have them out on the market now! Enjoy! Enjoy!!! Donna ;-}
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Re: Having a BALL using Pan Pastels!!!

Lynn, it's so great you got your trays. I can't wait to get some, they're going to make it so convenient.

Donna, you're right. They've been constantly working on developing these products and I can imagine how many versions they had to go through to get it right.
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