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Old 08-16-2010, 10:35 PM
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What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Hi everyone--

I was drooling over the Salmagundi set on Ludwig's site but wasn't sure what was exactly in it, so called over and they sent me the list.

I have pretty much decided that Ludwigs are the way I want to go from here on out, and so am working on a spreadsheet of what's-in-what-sets. I know that Terry lists info on the "open stock" page, but I'm a table kind of girl, so I've put a few of the sets in an Excel spreadsheet for comparison. So far I have The Plein Air set, the Maggie Price set, the Salmagundi set, and the Sunset set entered. As I enter others, I'll upload the spreadsheet here, if anyone is interested. I like to be able to look and see what's in what, and if there are any duplicates between sets.

PS Since there are 5 duplicates between the Maggie Price set and the Salmagundi City set, I asked if they would consider switching out those five pastels for anything that isn't already in the Salmagundi or Price sets and their response was: Sure! You choose!

Yay!
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Substitutions allowed! They are great!

I called there a year ago about an exchange and talked for a good while. The sales person was very nice. I always ask the person's name, so I did at the end of the conversation. When he said his name was Terry, I almost fell over. I didn't expect to call to change an order and get the owner!
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Anne-Marie, thanks for doing this! It's VERY useful. (I'll be watching as you add more sets to the spreadsheet. Good stuff!)

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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Thank you for sharing this, it's a great idea. I have always had the best service from TL. They are quick and most accomodating. My favorite set is still the Intense Darks II.
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:50 PM
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

hello
cool !
that name is a well established art club in NYC, so i'll do some homework for curiosity sake
look forward to seeing how you work that selection
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Thank you! That's so cool that the Salmagundi Set fits so neatly around the Maggie Price set. Also that Terry will do substitutions for the duplicates - that could make an incredible 120 color collection with five spots open for personal favorites. I'll have to keep that in mind in future since I definitely want the Maggie Price set and may want the Salmagundi as well.

When you get it, could you please do swatch tests of both sets? I'm curious as to what some of the colors actually look like and what the Salmagundi Set range looks like - it's hard to visualize from the letters and numbers.
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

I know, Potoma! I got to talk to Terry, too! (He forgot his WC password, he said, and so hasn't been around lately!)

Glad you find it useful, Jan!

Watergirl: Interesting about Intense Dark II! I have only gotten around to Intense Darks I! It does seem people prefer II. Both of the dark sets look good to me.

Ed: Yes, it will be fun to see the colors and let the inspiration flow! I didn't realize it was the name of a group from New York, but this makes sense, looking at the colors. Wrote in my journal this morning: the colors remind me of New York. I like the tinted pastel colors against the brights--also has a very 60's vibe to me.

Robert: Absolutely! I always do a full color chart--it's part of my "bonding process" with any product I buy that has color. I also have made color charts for the 120 Faber Castell set I have and the Reds & Pinks, Thunderstorm Greys, and the Landscape greens I got from Mount Visions. I don't know if I have permission to add swatches to the thread in the Learning Center about sets? Or should I just add the pictures here?
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Here are the charts!

The first one is the Mount Vision Reds & Pinks, the Landscape Greens, and the Thunderstorm Greys on the top, and the Terry Ludwig Maggie Price set on the bottom. Because these represent the great majority of the soft pastels I own, I put them all on the same chart so I could see them all at a glance. It is on Strathmore "Charcoal" paper.

The next picture is the vellum overlay I make that has all the color names.
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Here is just the Red and Pink set from Mount Vision.
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Here is the Landscape Greens from Mount Vision.
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

The Thunderstorm Greys from Mount Vision.
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The Maggie Price set from Ludwig.
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

The Faber Castell set. Note: since I have the exact same set in Watercolor pencils, I haven't gotten around to doing an overlay for it because with my Watercolor charts I write the name right underneath the swatch (I don't do this with pastels because it is too messy). So I just used the same order for the pastels as I did with the watercolor pencils and if I need to see what color something is, I just look on my watercolor chart.

This is on Wallis paper, and I could really see and feel the difference when I used it! I don't have the bottom taped down so it isn't plumb. Oops!
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Re: What's in the Salmagundi Club Ludwig Set + A Comparison Chart

Wow Ann-Marie!! Thanks for all this great information!! You are incredibly organized. Do you look at the charts to find your colors or do you just choose the pastel from the box? I find that I need to go to the pastel box, personally. But trying out each pastel to see the color in an organized way is a really great idea ... I may need to do that. I have a color mixing book that I did in watercolor - spent about 25 hours in a workshop mixing paint - and I love that book - use it all the time when painting in watercolor. Pastel is just so different.

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Hi Lynn! What I tend to do is to have my boxes of pastels open (at this point, I still have them in the manufacturer's boxes; at some point I would like to get great studio boxes, but I have so relatively few pastels that this works for now) My first impulse is to look in the box. However, I find that pastels look completely different (to me) in the box and on paper. Especially the Faber-Castells, which get really yucked up and even when I wipe them off, their real color is obscured with the markings of other pastels. So then I look up at my chart and I can see basically all the colors I have at a glance and it helps me decide. I am new to all this, so I'm not used to the products yet. It was different with my Copic markers and my watercolors--those I am completely familiar with. But these pastels I've only had since the end of June, and I've only done four painting with them so far. So it's helpful to have a reference.

25 hours mixing paint! Wow! What book was that? It sounds like fun! (I also love making watercolor grids. What is fun about grids and charts of all kinds is that it is a very low-stress, low-expectation, low-intimidation way to play with your materials. I find that once I do a chart, I am no longer intimidated and start to begin to realize some of the potential in the supplies--and then I'm off and running!
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