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Re: ESP - Portrait & Figure Fundamentals - Lesson 6: The Figure, Part 2

thanks sandra. i just checked out your thread in figure forum!!! i love seeing your stuff! i cut up my dakota paper sampler and did some playing. i found a paper that i liked. it made all the difference with the application of pastel. not as much struggling against the paper/my way of working. i am still trying to figure that out. i liked working on this little one!!! i would recommend trying different paper if you can! ginger
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Down the road, I'm going to buy that Dakota pastel paper sampler pack and try out the papers. Thanks for looking at my thread.
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thank you don!!! i had a lot of fun. i cut my one sheet up but i enjoyed working on the little sheet!!! not sure what i am going to try next. i need to order some paper!!!!
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Ginger,
I love your Degas painting. Totally charming. Wow!
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thank you nancy. i just framed it! i want to try another copy once i get some paper. they teach you a lot. i am not sure who to try next...
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One more Degas copy...
First one is 30 min sketch on brown wrap paper and the second one is on Wallis.
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Mario,

Very nice! The sketch has a nice simplicity and the 2nd one is such a good copy, at first glance I thought it was the Degas!

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Wow, Mario, very nice. The one on brown paper is simple yet it is just as good as the second piece. Both are beautiful.
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nice light mario! isn't degas fun!!! do you like the wallis paper? ginger
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Don, I'm back!

I've worked on this piece of Botticelli's Primavera for fun today and this took four and a half hours in a windy and chilly yard but it was well worth it. I think this is my favorite piece so far.

3M 600 grit sandpaper from hardware store, waterproof, dark gray at US$1.19
SMi soft pastel
General's Pastel Chalk Pencils
Cretacolor Carre Hard Pastel Sticks
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This 600 grit sandpaper is so much better than the 400 grit. I am wondering if the 1200 grit that I bought would be even better than this one. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow.

I don't dare put a background in because I'm afraid I might smudge the figures as I move my hand along. I'm happy with it for now. Today, I really understood how to lay down harder pastels first and then do the soft ones on top except fine details. I think this is the first time I find it pleasurable to use soft pastels.

Botticelli used hard outlines for all his figures and I sort of softened it for the angel with green hair and not sure how well I did it if at all. But today, my focus was on expressions and coloring. How does it look? I did it freehand.

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Hi Sandra,

This is very nicely done! Very dramatic! Love the expression on his face!

Using a toned or colored paper makes backgrounds somewhat of an option. If you decide to go with one, it is easier to put in the background while doing the foreground. Trying to put it in after usually doesn't work for many reasons - including potentially smudging what you have done!

Glad to hear that you are already to the stage where you are enjoying the pastels! Most people like the sanded papers best. I'll be interested in your review of the 1200 grit!

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Thank you, Don, for your comment. I read from a certain colored pencil teacher, Ann Mullen, that she actually completes the background before she does the figures in there so that she could gauge the values of the skin tone better. But I suppose for our purpose, soft pastel being so smudgy, it would be wiser to do from top left to top right and down gradually so as not to smudge it. Next time, I'll give that a try.
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Correction, that color pencilist is called Ann Kuhlberg.
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sandra sandra! i am lovin this!!!! the bottom figure especially!!!! the looseness of this is gorgeous. you are moving right along!!!! keep pushin yourself. sounds like you are starting to get a feel for what kind of surface works for you!!! ginger
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Thank you, Ginger, for your comment. Yeah, next time, I'll try the 1200 grit. If that is good, then perhaps UArt paper is good for me down the road when I could afford it.
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