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Old 08-29-2002, 09:14 PM
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Okay, I've moved the student grade paints to their own category. If you come across one that I missed that is still sitting in the "Oil Paints (Pro) category", let me know.

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Okay, here's another feature I'd like to see - sorting by total reviews and average rating.
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Advanced sorting criteria is on my to-do list, but it may be a little while until I can get to it....
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Some more things to think about as we chug along with this project.

I assigned the same rating types/questions to Student-Grade Oils as we used for the professional-grade oils. I didn't really see much deviation necessary there.

However, we do have Alkyd-based Oil Paints and Water-Soluble Oil Paints to contend with next. Any thoughts? I imagine that many/all of the attributes we have already come up with will be useful here, too, but given the specific nature of these 2 categories, there may be something specific that could be used.

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Any chance that you (or another oil cohort here) could put together a brief description of each?
Sorry, I didn't quite know what description you meant so I put it off just long enough so that you did it instead. But you did a great job!
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Randy - disregard my earlier message about the timetable for implementing the additional sorting. Sorting on total reviews is in, and I hope to have the sorting by average score in by the weekend.

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Wow! Looks good!
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Okay, Randy - the sorting based on average score is in when browsing categories.
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That sorting by rating is extremely useful and works great. Thanks!
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OK, are there any last thoughts on the rating questions we've used for the demo?

As a refresher, they are:

Color Variety

How would you rate the variety and variation of colors within this line?

Consistency/Workability

How would you rate the consistency and workability of this paint? If too oily or too dry, give it a lower rating. If nicer and creamier, give it a higher rating.

Color Quality

A simple measure of how much you like the colors in this line.

Container/Tube Quality

How would you rate the construction quality of the container/tube? Does the tube develop holes easily? Caps hard to get off? Does the tube have a well-designed cap with a slot in it?

Pigment Quality

How would you rate the "quality" of the pigment used in this line of paints? Good purity of color?

Opaque Covering Ability

How would you rate the "covering" power of the opaque colors in this line?

Transparency Rating

How would you rate the "transparency" qualities of the more transparent colors in this line?

Value for the Money

How would you rate the value for your money when buying this product? Keep in mind that even poorly made products can have a high rating here, if they are priced right.

I am debating the importance of the "Color Quality" question. Given the fact that we have "Color Variety" and "Pigment Quality", do we even need this one?

This initial rollout into Oil Paints is critical, and will shape the way future categories are implemented.

Are there any other categories necessary for Oil Paints? So far, we have:
  • Oil Paints (Pro)
  • Oil Paints (Student)
  • Oil Paints (Water-Soluble)
  • Oil Paints (Alkyds)

Should we add "Oil Paints (Water-Soluble - Student)"?

Thoughts welcome!

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Re: Color Quality
Color variety is just how many colors they have and is it a good variety. Doesn't mean they are any good.

Pigment Quality to me is difficult to grasp the meaning. I think it means that the colors are not weak and full of fillers or oil.

Color quality, to me is the more important. How brilliant are the colors. How aesthetically pleasing, etc.

An example, and I would love it clarified if I have it wrong.
I think everyone agrres that Old Holland has great pigment content. I've read that many places. However, when I bought several brands and compared colors there was a big difference in some. Take Cadmium Yellow Light. Old Holland's, which I had been using for a long time, looked like a dull dead color compared to Blockx Cad Yellow Light. I like Blockx's much better than Old Holland's, but for some reason, I can't say it has more/better pigment. Am I wrong about these pigment vs color?
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Value for the Money

How would you rate the value for your money when buying this product? Keep in mind that even poorly made products can have a high rating here, if they are priced right as well as expensive products if they are worth the price.

Another word on the pigment vs color thread. The question of how do I like the colors would be so much easier to answer than the pigment question, and TO ME would mean much more. I'd like to hear other's opinions on this.
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Re: Color Quality
Color variety is just how many colors they have and is it a good variety. Doesn't mean they are any good.

Pigment Quality to me is difficult to grasp the meaning. I think it means that the colors are not weak and full of fillers or oil.

Color quality, to me is the more important. How brilliant are the colors. How aesthetically pleasing, etc.

Perhaps we could merge the two questions into one: Pigment/Color Quality

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We should also now begin thinking about some of the related categories of oil-painting products.

One category that we have now is "Mediums (Oil)". Obviously, there are lots of different things that could be classified as a medium, or additive. Siccatives, driers, oils, waxes/resins/balms, etc. Any thoughts on how best to approach this? What would be a logical breakdown of these categories, and what possible rating questions could we ask in each?

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Old 08-31-2002, 10:00 PM
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Something else to consider:

Currently, we have a subcategory under "Drawing/Illustration" for Oil Pastels. We also have a subcategory under "Painting" called "Oil Sticks". Are these the same thing? If not, what is the difference? If they are basically the same thing, do they belong under Painting or Drawing/Illustration?
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