WetCanvas
Home Member Services Content Areas Tools Info Center WC Partners Shop Help
Channels:
Search for:
in:

Welcome to the WetCanvas forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit our help center.

Go Back   WetCanvas > The Learning Center > Composition and Design
User Name
Password
Register Mark Forums Read

Salute to our Partners
WC! Sponsors

Our Sponsors
Closed Thread  
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-16-2000, 10:48 AM
LarrySeiler's Avatar
LarrySeiler LarrySeiler is offline
A WC! Legend
NE Wisconsin Nicolet National Forest
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 36,431
 
Hails from United States
Post Bob's Surf Painting

Okay Bob...

I took just a little extra time to photoshop and Power Point this composition of yours. Your new submission of changes made came out dark on my system for some reason too, don't know why.

At any rate...I thought this might best explain what I was originally trying to get at...here it is, with a few visual aides...
<IMG SRC="http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/Sunset5Bobsart.jpg" border=0>

You can see I have divided the picture in half. You now have the option of formal balance or symmetrical...which you have not opted for obviously. The other option is asymmetrical. Now...if for some aesthetic reason the artist wishes to create tension in the piece, perhaps to disturb the viewer, one does not have to balance the painting at all. I would suspect you wish to leave the viewer with a tranquil feeling so I will assume "tension" is not the device you want.

You can see from the dividing line, that nearly 90% of the visual mass resides to the right of that line. The rocks do assist in leading the eye to the upper cloud, and the brightness of the sun in the way of contrast with the ground always bridges and leads the eye up...(signified by my curved arrow line leading up).

Something is needed as a "device" to lead the eye over to the other side of the painting to balance out this image and avoid the tension I eluded to. You have a bit of a finger from the cloud that acts as a "pointer" but its effect is minimal in lieu of the overwhelming weight on the right and lower side.

I drew a line coming down about to the 8 O'clock position pointing to an area I outlined with an oval, thinking it needs something about here...some dynamic that says "look at me!" so that the eye does not trail off the right side of the picture plane and leave. I do not think the finger cloud above is sufficient as a device to alone pull the eye over.

Now...there may be other devices to alleviate this problem, and one may have been to position the heavier rocks slightly more left of the dividing line, then you would have a diagonal play going on, and still that might make the balance "trite."

Thus..I was thinking of a slightly darker cloud here (oval)...perhaps a seagull, something. JMO (just my opinion)

Larry
  #2   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-16-2000, 08:55 PM
carly's Avatar
carly carly is offline
Veteran Member
Outside Atlanta, GA, USA
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 780
 
Hails from United States
Cool

Hi, was just wondering...is this Haystack Rock off the Oregon coast?

  #3   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-17-2000, 12:15 AM
LarrySeiler's Avatar
LarrySeiler LarrySeiler is offline
A WC! Legend
NE Wisconsin Nicolet National Forest
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 36,431
 
Hails from United States
Post

wouldn't know Carly....perhaps when Bob checks this thread out he'll let us know...

Larry
  #4   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-17-2000, 08:20 PM
CT CT is offline
Senior Member
Williamsburg, Virginia
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 213
 
Hails from United States
Post

Hi, Bob!

I think the thing that hurt you here was placing the large mass of rocks right in the middle of the foreground of this very vertical motif. There just isn't really any way around it and still maintain the feeling that you said you were striving. Don't feel too bad....I just dug out an ancient photo of a piece that I did over thirty years ago, a sunrise (east coast) on the beach, and I did almost the same thing, but I managed it in a horizontal motif. I'll bet you learned alot from this piece, and that's what really matters....good luck....CT
  #5   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-17-2000, 11:30 PM
LarrySeiler's Avatar
LarrySeiler LarrySeiler is offline
A WC! Legend
NE Wisconsin Nicolet National Forest
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 36,431
 
Hails from United States
Post

I ditto CT's comments Bob...your effort and time consumed in thought has no doubt already contributed to other works that has benefitted.

Its never a loss.....

Larry
  #6   Report Bad Post  
Old 07-18-2000, 01:52 AM
bobsart's Avatar
bobsart bobsart is offline
Enthusiast
Illinois
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,036
 
Hails from United States
Post

Larry....Thanx for the special critique. I wish I would have been able to use your expertise when I was working this piece.

This was done in 1991 and has been hanging on a stairwell wall ever since. I would often cringe when I would look at it because I too felt it was assymetrical. What's weird is I feel most of the activity is to the left of the vertical line and below the horizon line. I also feel that the left side of the vertical does not seem to belong to the right side of the vertical. I never intended for this tension to happen. I wanted the viewer to get the feeling that one might have after spending a long day at the beach and finally firing up the grill and sitting down with friends to munch on hotdogs and watch the sun go down. I think you alluded to that "tranquil feeling". This piece was pretty much illconceived as I did this piecemeal.

After years of studying this albatross, I think I should have added more clouds to the left of the vertical as you suggested. I should have also added more rocks and maybe some spray to the right of the large rock on about the same plane as the breaking wave. The goal would be to tie both sides of the picture together.

To answer Carly's question, Every thing in the picture was from my imagination except the sky. I copied it from a photo I snapped of a farmers corn field...bob

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:37 AM.


© 2014 F+W All rights reserved.