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Old 07-02-2019, 05:08 PM
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Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

My cheap Caran d'ache tube colors of gouache are fairly easy to paint over without lifting off the previous layer. This is the only water media I have ever used, so I can't say whether the dried blobs of paint on my palette rewet easily or not...it seems to depend on how long they've been sitting.

My reading on this forum tells me that better brands rewet easily on the palette. Does that mean they lift easily when painted over?

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Old 07-02-2019, 06:45 PM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

Most gouache paint is very difficult to layer because it lifts the previous layer very easily. I've never used Caran d'ache so can't compare that brand with any other.

As for rewetting on a palette, gouache does rewet fairly easily but it isn't anywhere near like it is fresh from the tube. It just doesn't handle quite the same as it never seems as thick and creamy. It always seems too diluted even if the reconstituted paint looks thick.
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

If you are interested in gouache, James Gurney's blog shows many quick demos. Click on Gouache in his index.

http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/20...ecture-in.html

Gurney says you can layer gouache some if you let the under layer fully dry and keep your touch light and quick. I have also noticed that I have to avoid allowing the upper layer be too wet.

That said, I prefer to use watercolors with white gouache as watercolors are more easy to rewet. I still bat much less than 50% when doing a watercolor/ gouache painting.

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Old 07-03-2019, 12:01 PM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

James Gurney made me do it! I had no interest in watercolor, but I was really captivated by his gouache sketches so I had to try it. So far, I either love it or hate it.

With the paints I am using, the layer resists a lot of brush contact if it is very dry. I have to scrub to disturb it. I wondered if this would be the case with a quality brand.
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

It sounds as if the Caran d'Ache paints are more like watercolor or even acrylic gouache than true gouache.

Traditional gouache (just about any brand) disturbs easily with even the lightest brushwork on a dry layer. However, as bad as that sounds, it can really work to your advantage once you learn to use it. It's easy to blend edges so that there's a gradated color change for instance. Or with leaves, you can put down a layer of yellow then follow it with some green or even blue or black and have a realistic leaf with light and dark. A sort of dabbing stroke is probably the most effective to use after a layer is put down with a light stroking to blend in places.

I won't lie and say this is easy to accomplish but it's very worthwhile to practice to achieve certain looks in your paintings.

You might also take a look at the paintings of Lena Rivo (https://www.lenarivo.com/) or just search for gouache painters to see how others handle the medium. It's very versatile & can either be super realistic or more painterly/impressionistic.

Does this help answer your questions?

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Old 07-03-2019, 01:31 PM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

Absolutely, thank you!

I had been puzzled by all the comments I read about lifting and blending because my paints didn't seem to work that way. Maybe I should stop using these if they're not representative of the medium. I wouldn't want to learn the wrong methods now and have to relearn everything later.
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

Glad to be of help.

You might look at THIS video review of different gouache brands including the Caran d'Ache.

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Old 07-03-2019, 02:37 PM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

Will do
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:22 PM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

I found another video that was very helpful to me. Hope it helps you too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMz3adIVjJM

And another that really explains what gouache is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spw7OIHSBIU

You Tube has lots of very helpful gouache videos!

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Old 07-05-2019, 12:42 AM
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Re: Re-wettability on the palette vs the paper

Thank you, those were very informative.
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