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Jasart seems to be an Australian brand with even a 72 colour set:

https://www.google.fi/search?q=jasar...xd6VkpQPLiM%3A

Perhaps our Australian friends have more info?

The upper middle class Faber-Castell Art Grip Aquarelle has been redesigned:

http://www.faber-castell.co.uk/produ...tinof60/114260

I wonder if this set is for British market only as this particular website is named faber-castell.co.uk...?

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Tombow by Disney: http://www.amazon.in/Tombow-Color-Pe.../dp/B0016GG844

Eberhard Faber map coloring pencils etc.

https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/64....259988253.jpg

https://www.google.fi/search?q=eberh...encils&imgrc=_

Does anybody know why EF chose to use the name Mongol? Was there ever a set larger than 24 colour?

These German Eberhard Fabers from 1990s were made by Staedtler:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mQOcKjPLL.jpg

http://ebay.styletag.de/vandyke24.jpg

I know because I have the 24 tin. The old gentleman at Malmin kirjakauppa, Helsinki imported this set as well as the Jolly Art & Design 24 set somewhat similar to this ...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...935faa04cd.jpg

... but water-soluble and made by Stabilo just like those old Bruynzeels.

It's two hours past midnight, Eastern European time, and I just can't sleep.

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Colleen seems to come from Far East:

https://www.google.fi/search?q=colle...w=1024&bih=607

Pictures like these ...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-COvS3U3xAx...22714_51n0.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lizNIjoK-v...0/DSC00776.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q3GNuEvcON...36492_iarm.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-7kzp-gAdWw8/Ui...908_094516.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jtcITt1ckj...l07152015a.jpg

... make me wonder where are sets for traditional boys! Where are the dinosaurs? Spaceships? Steam trains? Lions and rhinos?

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Heikki, it is 2 hours past midnight when I read this too, and I can't sleep either!
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Stabilo Funcolor is a brand I've never seen - the predecessor of today's Aquacolor as there are the old colour numbers above the brush logo on the pencils:

http://centrojonicocancelleria.weebl...9_i1_w640.jpeg

http://centrojonicocancelleria.weebl...5_i1_w614.jpeg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...pV6~qm/$_1.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2NVgxND...dV~sld/$_1.JPG

I can't imagine why Prismacolor puts 36 pencils in a narrow three-storey tin but the illustration is stunning:

http://procartoon.com/wp-content/upl...macolor-36.jpg

This Keyroad 18 set seems to be coming from same alchemistic cookery as Mapeds as the colours are in identical order:

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/062...g?v=1436612716

Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth now makes three-colour pencils - they may not be useful for serious art but they might be fun:

http://www.hobbylobby.com/Art-Suppli...encils/p/18483


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Vintage Caran d'Aches ...

'Nameless' 12 tin, possibly from mid-60s: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...3680e72a66.jpg

Its 18 colour sister: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...cf2a86d380.jpg

333 brand 18 set - this brand was available up to early 90s: http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...0d956d0565.jpg

Inside - round pencils: http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...b421495d59.jpg

Prismalo 18 set from...: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...cf866fd046.jpg

'Nameless' 12 set with Coca-Cola ad (plastic sticker?) - 1950s? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...aedfbcbd34.jpg

Old Prismalo 30 set: http://images.delcampe.com/img_large...96_001.jpg?v=4

Old Prismalo 18 set: https://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_7809...lle-18-999.jpg

Prismalo 80th anniversary set from 2011: https://desenholusofona.files.wordpr...30_ruban_s.jpg

Ad from about 1950: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9E1FtaCQAAjMDE.jpg

Caran d'Ache 100 years web page: http://www.carandache.com/100/live.php?lang=en

The first and only Derwent Artists 108 set I've seen: http://janedavenport.com/wp-content/...s-derwents.jpg

I haven't yet found the first set I had when I was four or five - a Caran d'Ache 18 tin with a map of Europe on the lid.

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"Bianyo colored pencils"...

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1YUnlK...apis-Water.jpg

"60 fargeblyanter" is Norwegian but "colorful" is an American spelling and the Creo label is one I've never heard of. Except the four neon colors (upper left) the colour selection looks suspiciously like Faber-Castell Art Grip Aquarell - a Far Eastern pirate copy?

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB18lBML...pg_640x640.jpg

Lid design looks similar to Maped:

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1YiiAL...t-lapis-de.jpg

http://cdn.redlily.com/media/catalog...162_base_1.jpg

Bianyo brand in an unusual box:

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LH9RL...ils-b-font.jpg

Whew.

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Stabilo Swano Polycolor 12 set from early 1960s:

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/...3Np/s-l225.jpg

Coloré may be related to Marco Renoir or may not:

https://www.selloscope.com/hrimg/ecx...72-5-hires.jpg

https://www.selloscope.com/hrimg/ecx...72-1-hires.jpg

I'm a bit annoyed by some Finnish blogists. Having just found adult's colouring books, they decide to test and compare pencils. If I'd compare the way they do, I'd take a 5 € nameless Chinese set and a 15 € "60 artist pencils" set (usually 12 ordinary and 12 water-souble colour pencils, 12 metallic pencils as well as 12 blacklead and 12 charcoal pencils), then a 12 colour Derwent Inktense set (Inktenses are not intended for beginners) and finally the remnants of some 30+ years old old Lyra or Staedtler set. The next step would be colouring one or perhaps even two mandalas with each. And then I would get a result like "the 1980 Toyota Corolla is the best car I've ever driven", meaning that the idea of anything better would never occur.

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I'm a bit annoyed by some Finnish blogists. Having just found adult's colouring books, they decide to test and compare pencils. If I'd compare the way they do, I'd take a 5 € nameless Chinese set and a 15 € "60 artist pencils" set (usually 12 ordinary and 12 water-souble colour pencils, 12 pencils as well as 12 blacklead and 12 charcoal pencils), then a 12 colour Derwent Inktense set (Inktenses are not intended for beginners) and finally the remnants of some 30+ years old old Lyra or Staedtler set. The next step would be colouring one or perhaps even two mandalas with each. And then I would get a result like "the 1980 Toyota Corolla is the best car I've ever driven", meaning that the idea of anything better would never occur.

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I googled "Derwent Procolour" but these came up...

Fansia? Yes, not Fantasia but FANSIA:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg

A Baoke 72 set, "not easy to fade":

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1I8dZL...Color-font.jpg

These looked like felt-tip pens but apparently they are threads:

http://www.artinaction.org.uk/wp-con...ry_silks_1.jpg

One, two, three...probably the only 23 colour set ever made:

https://img.michaels.com/L6/3/IOGLO/...de%7C1024:1024

May be continued but not today...

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I like images on Fansia cover )
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Hmm. The Fantasia 36 set has same cover except the name:

http://www.merriartist.com/v/vspfile...PRO-3045-2.jpg

I wonder if the Fansia cover is photoshopped or is the brand a pirate copy.

The genuine Fantasias seem to be made by Koh-i-noor Hardtmuth as their colour range is identical - has anybody tried (and purr-haps willing to swap)?

http://www.dickblick.com/products/fa...lored-pencils/

Unfortunately I can't remember which cover design is newer.

And it is still possible that there are more than one brands named Fantasia - it is a catchy name.

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Gosh, Eberhard Faber now has lower middle class (judged by the price) pencils in 72 colours.

http://www.eberhardfaber.de/painting...erBlech/514872

Guess who wants a set.

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"Soviet color pencils 1979":

https://img1.etsystatic.com/120/0/67...29159_qais.jpg

https://img0.etsystatic.com/105/0/67...86568_stri.jpg

"Old Soviet pencils":

https://img1.etsystatic.com/124/0/70...43727_aqir.jpg

"Vintage Soviet pencil set":

https://img1.etsystatic.com/051/1/82...94669_k4ys.jpg

"Soviet color pencils / 1979":

https://img1.etsystatic.com/164/0/14...11407_hvgy.jpg

"Vintage pencils set":

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...4f26b33cb8.jpg

The Russian big bad wolf might be seen as a relative to Wile E. Coyote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu,_pogodi!

Were there any artist grade pencils in Soviet Union and Eastern bloc before they fell? What did Koh-i-noor make in Czechoslovakia?

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Heikki
I can't tell for Soviet Union, as when it fell, I was about 10 years. What can I tell for sure, that we still (!) do not have open-stock pencils and artist-grade too. The ones on 1st and 2nd link sharpened too badly. Cracked wood and broken lead. I remember dad brought some "foreign" pencils from business trip (he had this opportunity to go abroad). They were soooo nice and soft. I even did not take them to school, as I did not want others to envy.
The ones on 4th link seem to be not from SU, as the name is in latin letters.
As for KIN, can't tell for sure, but smth in my memory tell me, that their products were in SU.

PS: thank you for reminding "Nu , pogodi". I still think it one of the greatest cartoon ever made.
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