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I saw this cutie over in the other journal. I'm so glad that one has survived.
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I love how fluffy he looks, with just a few lines and some washed edges. Nice work!
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Thanks Jamie, Debby, Rainy, Joan and Michelle!

Jamie - It doesn't bother me that it's a one-shot thing, it's good discipline with its 'get it right the first time' aspect. It's no faster for me than pencil yet, I think because I have so much more experience with pencil. I think the Venezia paper is nice and works well with pen and wash. I'm not too fond of the cover on the journal, though.

Here is the most recent one I've done, a donkey from the Southwest/Western Art forum May challenge. The sketch was done with Lamy blue ink initially in a fountain pen, then I used a dip pen with J. Herbin Cacao du Bresil dark brown for the shadows.

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Cute donkey. Great job.
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what a cool combo of colors, John. great form on the donkey! hope you are having fun with the inks! I've yet to try that brown . . . been meaning to get a sample. what do you think of it?
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John, I really like the Cacao du Bresil. i just gave into temptation and purchased a whole bottle of it along with that messenger bag (and three other bottles of ink!) It's interesting how warm it looks in color next to the blue.

Very good sketch, done without fussing. Two thumbs up!

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John, I really like the effect of the blue line work with the gray/brown wash on the donkey. It brings it to life.
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Thanks Debby, Rainy, Jamie and Michelle! I do like the Cacao du Bresil brown, although initially I thought it looked a bit on the cool side...but I do think it will work well in a lot of situations. I also have Herbin's Cafe de Iles, which is a much more red brown. And today when I was at the bookstore, I picked up a Caran d'Ache 'Grand Canyon' brown in their 'earth colors' line. It's warmer than the Cacao du Bresil but cooler than the Cafe de Iles.

I sure am finding with the fountain pens that the paper is much more critical than with graphite sketching. Of course that's a good thing for an art supply addict - gotta buy a couple more brands of journals to test...!
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And today when I was at the bookstore, I picked up a Caran d'Ache 'Grand Canyon' brown in their 'earth colors' line. It's warmer than the Cacao du Bresil but cooler than the Cafe de Iles.

I love Grand Canyon too. I got a test sample and have used that up. It's definitely on my wish list for bottles of ink! I wish it were a bit more saturated, but the color is great.

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I sure am finding with the fountain pens that the paper is much more critical than with graphite sketching. Of course that's a good thing for an art supply addict - gotta buy a couple more brands of journals to test...!

EXACTLY!!! That is what happened with me too. . . the Stillman & Birn are nice but have only done small tests in them so far and not full drawings. I've yet to try my Fabriano.
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Hi Jamie and Rainy -

Jamie - the lack of saturation was also my first reaction to it. It works fine, but it doesn't seem to have quite the flow characteristics of some of the others (although maybe that's the pen nib that it's used in right now). I also loaded a pen with Noodler's Violet, and that is very saturated. But, like you, I think the Grand Canyon is a useful color - glad I bought it.

Rainy - I have to agree with Jamie's review of the Fabriano Venezia journal. So far of all the sketchbooks I've tried, that seems to have the best characteristics overall. The Arches watercolor (cold press) sketchbooks that I have are a bit rough for smooth writing. The Robert Bateman work very nicely with ink, but are not ideal for anything but light washes. The Aquabee Deluxe are also pretty good. And I'm still very new at this so there is a whole lot more testing to go...

One issue with the Venezia sketchbooks is that I don't know how available they are, or if they're going to be an ongoing product. The University of WA bookstore (which has a very nice art supply section) has huge numbers and varieties of sketchbooks, and they had only three of the Venezia's left and on sale as what appeared to be soon-to-be-discontinued (at least for them) products.
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uh, oh. . . . if you like those John, maybe you should buy all three!? just in case

I only got the small 4 x 6 one so I'm going to try it out in next few days in case I do like it LOTS time to order a bit bigger one
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Yikes! I hope it's just that one place will no longer carry them, and not that they're going to be unavailable! I think those and the Stillman & Birn books are the best out there.

John, I had an idea regarding the Grand Canyon ink. What if we were to allow some of the water to evaporate out? Maybe I will try an experiment!

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Great job on the donkey, John. I like the touch of the blue ink!
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You know, in testing books/paper, I have found that how saturated an ink is depends somewhat on the paper, too.
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