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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Not too bad at all! You could probably stop there if you wanted to.

Yeah, realism takes a lot of time and patience. Maybe that's why a lot of the art world is putting it down, they don't want to do it. lol
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Jim, I agree about this one...the reflection is so distinct that I imagine it's just shapes no matter what. That said...I love where you are at now! I KNOW I don't have the patience to get that far, let alone further!

Thanks, Golanv!

Ron...maybe that wide-angle thing is what makes some of my portraits go from seeming spot on, to warped from time to time? Sometimes I just cannot get a pic right...sigh. Am so not camera-savy...and too lazy to learn...

Got sidetracked doing a portrait of Robin Williams...need to get back to the glass stuff.
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

The 'working upside down' relates more or less to any image when working from a photo - often using this method to draw faces works really well because it stops you saying 'this is a nose ... an eye... a mouth' etc and you just look at shape. It's the 'right side/left side' brain thing!

And Susan - remember when I said the glass in your work was probably because of the ref being off? .... just what Ron is saying above.
As artists, we 'correct' these anomalies.

Jim - I too like where it is now - I like the broken lines of paint and the contrasts of tone ....... good idea to work on the black!
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

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Ron...maybe that wide-angle thing is what makes some of my portraits go from seeming spot on, to warped from time to time? Sometimes I just cannot get a pic right...sigh. Am so not camera-savy...and too lazy to learn...
For portrait reference pix, there is not that much to learn:
  • center your subject
  • don't get too close(~~5 ft. minimum) -- zoom in if you can
  • avoid straight flash and bright sun - use side or diffused (cloudy) lighting
  • take several pix -- no film cost with digital
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

I have a project thats a ton of glasswork at home. I will post my ref photo and progress when I get back I could really use some help.
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That's why we're here Jason
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Maureen, sounds like you've read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Such an interesting book.
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Indeed I have Michelle Bought it years ago - it still comes in useful
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Ron...sadly, with the ref photos, they are usually already done. And I often choose poorly, when it comes to that...sigh! What I seem to have trouble with is photos of my paintings. I finally have the scanner working again...so maybe that will help, as there is a bit less distortion there.
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Jim's marbles would not leave my brain... and I found a ref photo that stuck there as well...sigh.


Been playing with it, and realized that one truly has to be pretty realistic to make it work...which requires and extreme amount of patience. Also decided I had little interest in the ice cubes, or the extreme amount of shapes in the smaller marbles... so I just used other refs to get some shapes.

Since I did play with it, I'll show it...but doubt I'll go any further with it. I used a bit of pouring medium to try and bring the real marbles forward...just to see if that worked. Jim, I so respected your work previously....now my hat's off to you!! And you amaze me!!!

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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Lol, I don't like those ice cubes either Susan! But I do like your marbles and I think they look quite glass-like without employing extreme realism, as you say!
Painting is all about choices and if the ones you've made give you the expression you want, that's fine!
I've painted marbles too - they are not an easy subject, and as you've found, challenging!
I think you could probably make the highlights on the reds brighter - like those on the green - and you'll see that in the reflections, they're distorted rather than an accurate mirror-image. ........ and that's as much as I'd do to this!
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Thanks, Maureen! I painted the reds when things were too wet... and did not go back and touch them up. Realized that after I posted....we'll see if I go back or not.

In case I/we don't say it enough....your generosity in doing these paint-a-longs, and willingness to help those of us who flounder at times, is soooo greatly appreciated!!! I just want to be sure you know!!
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Aw, shucks Susan - thank you
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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Getting close to finish now - 5 h since last posting. Now ptg any which way. ~1 h left. Only the fussy stuff that ultimately makes the ptg jump.
Need to work on more accents. And on the left margin. And dull down the reddish color on the upper rt side. And do the same with the orange on the middle left side.

Original on rt. [Note that I extended the reflection because I am using a 16 x 20 canvas but the foto is ~16 x 18!]

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Re: PAL (Paint-a Long): Painting glass and Metal

Jim - I like your choice of rich colours for this ........ you must be enjoying the process to keep at it!
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