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Old 06-07-2001, 06:30 AM
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The lineup and lighting are too linear.
Is it possible that it is concept driven, or full of intent?
If so, it is not tentative enough.
I think the certainty is plastic, but that doesn't endow plasticity.
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Hi Jerry,
If I knew what you were talking about, I would be able to reply but All that you said, went right by me without stopping. The reality of it is this. I liked this painting very much and wanted a copy for myself, so I painted it.Loren Speck, as near as I can recall, was selling framed prints of this painting for about $1800.00 each. Thats a lot of money for just a print. If he did in fact get people to buy them, then the painting must have some merit.
Thanks for your critique though, I realize we don't all like the same thing in art, if we did, it would be very dull.

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Old 06-19-2001, 11:24 AM
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Victor: Hope you do not mind me giving this thread new life in the still life forum.

I am a very big fan of the still life and like to copy the works of the Peale family. I have a copy of a Rembrant Peale on my website and have copied it many times. As a matter of fact, it is the painting style that I most get requests from my clients.

Concerning your painting.... You really did an exceptional job!

One thing I like to do is take a still life that I like personally and try to set something similar up as a still life for me to paint. I found that I like having someones work to give me clues as to how to solve similar problems, but having the actual object in front of me helps me see and the work becomes more my own.

Have you ever tried that? It's fun.
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Old 06-19-2001, 12:13 PM
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Just a suggestion; The painting appears to be of only one apple and one berry cluster turned in different directions...much more powerful would be a painting of the specific characteristics of each piece of fruit, not a generic "fruit"
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Hi Vic,

Just dropped in from Oil Painting - this looks like it's going to be a great forum. I just visited Loren Speck's web site and it's terrific, thank you. Your rendition is excellent.

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Old 06-24-2001, 10:12 AM
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I like the way you did the light!! Makes it look real...
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Old 06-24-2001, 11:19 PM
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This is very beautiful. How long have you been a painter?
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Old 06-28-2001, 10:58 AM
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Hey Victor Our taste seems to run the sme whay when it comes to still life Bookmarked his website! Have you ever heard of a painter named Gerald Stinski? These could be the same people! He was the artist who inspired a love of still life in me. He doesn't have a web site, but I could scan a couple of his picts and post them or send them to you if you like My first color oil painting was a copy of his Artichoke and Cherries His plums are fantastic too! Also...... check this guy out.
http://www.mrs.umn.edu/academic/art/ingle/
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Old 06-28-2001, 11:08 AM
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BTW Victor, your plums are magnificent!
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This, 'Blackberries and Plums', is the first of your work that I have seen (I mostly hang out at the watercolor forums), and I truly enjoy still life paintings.

I enjoyed your painting very much and I will be checking back to see what's new.

The Best,

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Old 06-29-2001, 10:02 AM
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Hi Bella,

Can you please post the still life with the cherries? I'm working on one right now with cherries in it, and I'm just not "getting it!"
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Old 06-29-2001, 10:45 AM
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Already done ldallen. I started a new thread yesterday called 'Stinski's art for Victor' The cherries are there.
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Old 06-29-2001, 12:44 PM
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OK, it bothers me

Stinski's stuff is amazingly realistic...I look at it and I don't like it...maybe, because I used to be a professional photographer and after all, I am painting now ...aint I ? anyway, I guess I'll move on over to the other thread to cause trouble....I ask myself, and what if that canvas was one that I had done?...well, I take such satisfaction in objects that I paint well and not even a fraction as realistic as these...I actually believe that I like my struggles and results better....I have "getting a digital camera" high on my priority list...til then, words do not suffice...of course his stuff is "better" but I don't want mine looking like that...do you? Tell me about it.
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Old 06-30-2001, 08:29 AM
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Hi Illis,

I think that is a very good idea. I am just getting back to still life, love it, but sometimes have trouble setting it up to my own satisfaction so I will find a still life that I like using my own pots, fruits, etc. from around the house.
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Hello, Victor!I love this painting ! You posted it in the critique forum first, I belive. The plums are ready for the bite!

Julia
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