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Old 04-13-2012, 11:56 PM
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Question and New trading card blanks

Just cruising by here. Becoming interested in ATCs (late starter as usual and I've probably missed the boat). Health is forcing me to think about what I can manage easily art-wise and laptop projects seem the most promising if I can make the transition from large to tiny.

I'm wondering if there are any marked preferences you might have for working methods. Do you start work on a precut 2.5 X 3.5 inch blank, or work small but on a larger sheet and trim later, or work bigger and crop suitable sections from a larger work?

If they are to be matted, do you allow an extra bit of blank border or do you religiously stick to the exact size format? If swapping or selling, should the recipient be given the option of a matting allowance or they themselves can trim to 2.5 X 3.5 if using a PVC sleeve?

What weight do you prefer your cards to be? (I.E. How thick or heavy is your preferred substrate?)

If storing in pockets, do you like the corners rounded like a playing card, or square?

Prowling the web, looking for info, I came upon a new product designed specifically for the ATC size, made by Art Spectrum, the makers of Colourfix Papers. Packets of 10 artists trading blanks with assorted Colourfix coated coloured backgrounds. http://arthousenorthside.com.au/

I've used Colourfix and Colourfix Suede as a base for watercolours, soluble water crayons and pencils, acrylics, oils and and of course pastels, but it is very hard on brushes, wearing out the points quickly. The Suede is nice for pencils - both graphite and coloured. One thing I noted was the very heavy quality of the substrate watercolour paper they are using. Very nice!

Anyway, in case this appeals to some, I've enclosed the link where I found them.

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Old 04-15-2012, 06:46 PM
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Re: Question and New trading card blanks

Hello, Dale! Some wonderful questions (before I found WetCanvas, I had the figure it ALL out myself!). First, I paint with watercolor....I find it easier to draw my painting and transfer it to watercolor paper. I use a larger sheet, then cut it down..that way I can extend the background and can use a mat to decide on the best way to cut it down. Plus, I TRIED real hard to paint on a cut-down card...some folks do...NOT ME..to me, I may be feeble fingered clumsy..don't know, but it is much easier for me to manipulate a little bit larger piece of paper (plus, my painting with watercolor makes it less likely to buckle if it is on a larger piece of paper!)

Mats...there are places on eBay that will sell you precut mats that an ACEO will fit in to. If you PM me, I will give you the site. With a mat already precut for ACEO size, there is no problem with trimming down to ACEO size. If you like a white border, you may incorporate it into the ACEO itself..that way, if you choose not to mat there will still be a "mat" around the picture. I'm thinking, not a bad idea, cause one can sure run out of ways to paint a background...that is the toughest part for me, trying to figure out what the background will be...and as you draw smaller, oh my, you WILL find you need to fill all that SPACE!!!

Always square corners...some people prefer rounded, but not so good!

With ACEOs one can use any support...from Masonite to Paper to Wood for the, what do you call it, burning your art into the wood...so the world's your oyster! I use 300 lb. to 200 lb. Hot Press, Sometimes Cold Press...there are some sites I've read that say only to use smooth paper. There are other sites I've read that describe "miniature art" as ANY art done in a miniature scale even if it is part of a larger painting (!!!???***). Have NO idea of what thas is about, since it seems to nullify the idea of miniature art!

As far as medium, anything goes there to! Pastels, Watercolor, Oils, Acrylic, Gouache, burning tools, carving tools...the list goes on and on!

So glad you have plastic sleeves! That way, you can sell or trade an ACEO that is protected from hands, atmosphere, etc. Oh, a note, it is best to finish your ACEO as you would a larger painting (Sealer for Acrylic, Varnish for Oils...me, for watercolor, I seal with an Acrylic spray that protects from UV rays since many people do not put ACEOs under glass...plus it protects them from handling, humidity, and ACCIDENTS!

Anything else you want to know, I can help answer, or someone else in the forum will be kind enough, I am sure!

Welcome to the LARGE World of SMALL Art!

Margarete
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:38 PM
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Re: Question and New trading card blanks

Margarete is dead on right, there are so many different varieties of card and methods of trimming. The world really is your oyster.
Some trades and projects will specify what the parameters are but for personal trades or for your own pleasure whatever you want to do is great.
I use a good strong water color paper. The lowest I use is 300gsm, but that's a personal preference. I've received cards on everything from card stock to newsprint. I do use the plastic envelopes, they're great.

I like your blog by the way! Your art is beautiful.
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Re: Question and New trading card blanks

Margarete, thank you for your very informative reply. Had a play with an ATC sized pen & wash yesterday. Bit of a disaster. This tiddly painting lark is not easy!

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Old 04-16-2012, 10:10 PM
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Re: Question and New trading card blanks

Thanks for sharing your experiences Virginia. I tried using 300 gsm hot press Arches. The cut ATC seems a bit flimsy though. I think I need some 500 gsm paper.

Glad you enjoyed my blog. Badly needs updating but my PC has died, I don't have my laptop connected to my scanner and all the camera software was installed on the PC too. No dramas as I have a backup, but now waiting for a new PC to be built. My, how I loathe this laptop!!!!

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