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November 29, 2019 at 1:02 pm #480777
I’ve been at these for three days. These are my last two. They are unfinished because I get frustrated and simply toss them aside. They’re muddy and lifeless.
When I try to add life and shadow, I just get blah. When I try to add definition, it’s two strong and looks cartoonish.
I keep adjusting and it loses its light delicate feel.
Before I do another (a 4th) I need some feedback. What am I missing? What should I do differently?
The first one uses an orange (mixed) for the shadowing. The second uses a Rose madder.
The yellows are Hansa and Aureolin.
Thomas
November 29, 2019 at 2:25 pm #912780Thomas, It’s all about contrast. Lights vs darks. Your colors are too analogous, too close together on the color wheel. To create definition and form, you need to place darker colors next to the lights. Don’t mix them together, let one layer dry before putting on the next. I did a quick photoshop version to demonstrate the importance of value change. I hop e this helps.
Rich
November 29, 2019 at 2:30 pm #912788Rich,
Wow. I think you are right. I need to be bolder.
Thomas
November 29, 2019 at 3:08 pm #912796I think you need to be more patient , let a layer dry before adding another one !
November 29, 2019 at 3:17 pm #912789I need to walk away…tossed this one out (and am tempted to toss my paints with it). It looked terrible when I went darker. Like a three year old’s interpretation of a flower.
November 29, 2019 at 3:19 pm #912790I think you need to be more patient , let a layer dry before adding another one !
I think this is spot on.
November 29, 2019 at 4:17 pm #912783Rich and Zelda had some good insight, in general I think the petals are fine,but they could use some darks in the spaces between them and where they overlap being careful to lay off the light areas, you can almost always brighten ip a light by darkening around it,,,compositionally I would crop it at the stem leaving the flower well positioned in a square
Kaylen Savoie
https://www.savoieartist.com/
At least twice a year,paint something better than you ever painted before.November 29, 2019 at 4:50 pm #912795The comments are very valuable. I would like to know what paper you are using as well as what brands of paint?
November 29, 2019 at 5:25 pm #912791The comments are very valuable. I would like to know what paper you are using as well as what brands of paint?
Arches 140lb cold press with DS tubes.
December 1, 2019 at 6:00 pm #912784this might help ..”A” and ‘B’,and “C’ are the same color,,,it depends on the surroundings
Kaylen Savoie
https://www.savoieartist.com/
At least twice a year,paint something better than you ever painted before.December 1, 2019 at 6:55 pm #912792Kaylen
Yep. I get the theory. Applying it properly takes patience and a bit of discipline. That’s what I am working on at present. I was too slapstick on this one. The results of today’s work is in the studio as “Sunflower Study”.
Thomas
December 3, 2019 at 6:18 pm #912787I have one more suggestion to add to the excellent ones already given….
leave some white paper. Keep at it! Things will get easier.December 4, 2019 at 8:07 am #912793I have one more suggestion to add to the excellent ones already given….
leave some white paper. Keep at it! Things will get easier.I’m thinking I’ll do that on the right – the flower’s left.
Thomas
December 4, 2019 at 1:27 pm #912782Well, I like the first sunflower, and that it’s not bright and contrasty. It has character.
What I think you might do is put some activity in the pollen and petals—not too much, enough to energize the tones (make less flat.)
I think the backgrounds are nice, and set a moodiness.
For future work: think about using complement colors for shadows, while doing the underpainting. So in this case, violet under the yellow.
December 22, 2019 at 11:50 pm #912781I thought they looked perfect. You got to picture the finished painting in your head first then you have to solve in your head how to do it. You must see something different than what is above.
I have just been thrown out of the inn where I was staying, naked as a worm. Claude Monet
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