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Old 10-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

Has anyone seen the ads for the new lead primed linen panels by Fredrix? I think there is one one the back of the new The Artist's magazine, or maybe it was American Artist magazine. Anyways, the ad says that it is a lead white primer with rabbit skin glue sizing in linen wrapped around a hardboard panel. I know people have been looking for pre-stretched lead primed canvases for awhile and it looks like Fredrix has heard the call. They don't have anything on their website about them yet. Has anyone tried these yet?
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

If it's true, I'll be interested to see what their prices are like compared to all the other over priced varieties out there.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:58 PM
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

I did a little searching and found them at jerrysartarma.com, but they only sell them in packs of 12? They aren't outrageously priced. Here is the link:
http://jerrysartarama.com/art-supply-stores/online/5325

Hopefully local art stores will be selling them individually.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

For some stupid reason I can't get the jerrys site to come up on my computer at work, must be the firewall. But I see them on the aswexpress.com site. Cool the price is half that of most of the other brands.

The ones on the aswexpress.com site are linen on tempered hard board with acrylic titanium gesso primer, not lead. I'll check jerrys when I get home.

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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

Has anyone tried these panels? I noticed an add for them in Artist Magazine.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

I bought one but have not painted on it yet. The oil primer is a dull light green (which I like) and the quality seems good. It is a med. texture linen. I also got one of the acryic gesso linen panes that looks decent too but I haven't painted anything on that yet either. I'll post again when I paint on them.

EDT- I will post an image of the pannel to give you a better idea of what they are when I get back to the studio.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

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I did a little searching and found them at jerrysartarma.com, but they only sell them in packs of 12? They aren't outrageously priced. Here is the link:
http://jerrysartarama.com/art-supply-stores/online/5325

Hopefully local art stores will be selling them individually.

The description of the panels in your link say "oil primed," but don't mention anything about lead.

New York Central Art Supply carries lead primed linen. It's not too shabby, as preprimed linen goes.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

Front to back: Source Tek Portrait Linen, Fredrix Oil Primed Linen, Fredrix Acrylic Primed Linen.


Not sure the texure will show at this res.

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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

Do you know if these are available in the United Kingdom?

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Originally posted by Robman The description of the panels in your link say "oil primed," but don't mention anything about lead.

Robman,

I found the following link which has a detailed description of the Fredrix Oil Primed Panels: http://www.arttalk.com/arttalkcomartistsmarketplace.htm

Here is an excert "...Next a fine preparation of old-world lead white is applied. Made from a carefully prepared mixture of lead whiting and linseed oil, this oil priming applied over the carefully prepared linen yields a surface prized by oil painters everywhere..."

Dirtballartist,

Thanks for the photos. Looks like a nice panel. I have used the acrylic linen panels and they are nice, but a little pricey. I see that the oil primed panels are even more expensive. I guess you get what you pay for though.

Thanks.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

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I found the following link which has a detailed description of the Fredrix Oil Primed Panels: http://www.arttalk.com/arttalkcomartistsmarketplace.htm

Thanks Sketchpad. The poetic descriptions made me want to gag, but I'll give it a shot. I just hope they prime their panels better than they prime their acrylic gesso panels. Those things have terrible glaring and sparkling problems.

What's "Old World" lead white? Are they preparing their panels with lead white made from the stack method? Somehow I doubt that.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

I've used it. It's quite smooth and slick. Mine says acrylic-titanium primed. Didn't see any info about 'oil-primed' archival panels on Fredrix's website.

Fredrix claims it's archival probably because the panel core is tempered masonite (not the hardware store kind of 'tempered'--that's bad for painting). It sure is better than cardboard. The linen is fine, but Fredrix didn't provide any details on the package.
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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

I've used the acrylic primed linen panels from Fredrix. Far better than their "archival" cottom canvas panels, which seem to me poorly made and badly primed. And considering the linen panels aren't *that* much more expensive than their (seriously overpriced) archival canvas panels, they are a much better deal.
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I'm curious, does anyone have any idea why these are a "dull light green" instead of the colour they should be?

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Thanks Sketchpad. The poetic descriptions made me want to gag, but I'll give it a shot.
Ditto.

"And the finished painting exudes a rich, luxurious quality prized by knowledgeable buyers and collectors." Yeah, right <gack>

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Those things have terrible glaring and sparkling problems.
Too shiny? This is a common problem with commercial acrylic-primed boards, which I wouldn't want to paint on directly using acrylics much less oil paint.

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What's "Old World" lead white? Are they preparing their panels with lead white made from the stack method? Somehow I doubt that.
They probably mean that lead white is an old-world material, but since the copywriter (is this Fredrix's marketing spiel?) doesn't have a clue how to use hyphens we'll just have to guess; although it's just conceivable they don't mean basic lead carbonate I doubt it.


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Fredrix claims it's archival probably because the panel core is tempered masonite (not the hardware store kind of 'tempered'--that's bad for painting).
Since it is extremely unlikely they manufacture the board themselves you'll probably find it is a bought-in commercial hardboard - just like from the lumber yard/hardware store.

There is quite a bit of debate about whether tempered or untempered is better in the long term and there are some knowledgeable professionals who specifically choose the tempered variety rather than untempered to paint on, although I prefer untempered myself.

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Re: Fredrix Lead Primed Linen Panels

The new panels are on sale at Dick Blick and Jerry's Artarama, $60 for 12 8x10s.

I've read Richard Schmid's books on painting and he won't paint on anything but lead primed linen. A few months ago I ordered some lead-primed linen from Italian Art Store and it was wonderful....the colors just flowed. I've never seen such beautiful color. Italianartstore.com is a great source for oil painters. The house brands seem to be the best.

I am mainly a watercolor artist and am trying oils...so I don't have a lot of experience, but I can tell you that paintings painted on cotton acrylic primed canvas look dull and chaulky compared to anything on lead primed linen...

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