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Old 10-12-2019, 11:52 AM
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Golden ratio

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Are there any recommendations where to look for more information about the Golden Ratio either online or books? I've found some threads about it here, but I couldn't find one thread that included a Golden ratio image.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:23 PM
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Re: Golden ratio

The classic work would be Marco Livio's "The Golden Ratio," which is widely available. If you search a few thrift stores in your area, you'll probably find a copy for a buck.

As interesting as that book is, I'd counsel you not to take "ratio" talk too seriously. Here is a good article explaining why the ratio is not as big a deal in design as some people think. Here is a balanced look at the debate between debunkers and believers. Also worth reading: "Lies and Debunked Legends about the Golden Ratio" and this Skeptoid article.

Be particularly wary about claims that Leonardo da Vinci used the ratio in all of his art, particularly in his famous drawing "The Vitruvian Man." While he certainly knew about the ratio -- he was, after all, closely associated with the geometer Luca Pacioli -- Leonardo was much more fascinated by what has been called the Silver Ratio, which relates to octagonal geometry. If you look at Leonardo's notebooks (which Golden Ratio buffs never do), you'll see that he had an obsessive interest in octagons throughout his career. The Vitruvian Man and the Last Supper are based on octagonal geometry. So is the de Ganay version of the Salvator Mundi, which my ladyfriend and I consider a product of Leonardo's studio at least partially painted by the master himself. This video lays out much of our argument.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:23 PM
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Re: Golden ratio

Just Google, "Dynamic Symmetry", and you'll likely encounter more than you can digest in a lifetime!

All of that needs to be tempered with a degree of practicality, in my opinion.
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Re: Golden ratio

There is a vast literature online on this number and associated ones. I'm frankly astonished that you couldn't find an image! It's a fascinating subject and as an ex maths teacher I used it a lot, mainly to provide some 'off piste' diversions for classes.
It has certainly been used in the construction of pictures in the past and continues to be so. I've even done it myself but I don't see it as any magic solution to producing great paintings!
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:36 AM
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Re: Golden ratio

A search for 'Golden Mean" or "Golden Section" will also turn up discussions. If you really want to go down the rabbit hole start searching and researching sacred geometry. All sorts of "perfect" geometric construction rules...
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:15 PM
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Re: Golden ratio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wntIMD9wbR0

Here's a recent video by Andrew Tischler that does a pretty good job of explaining it.
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Re: Golden ratio

IMHO golden section makes a good servant and a bad master. I'd advise you design your painting first in what ever method you prefer, and then see if aligning some portion with the golden section improves it or not.
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