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Old 04-02-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Not a dumb question at all. Through trial and error I've finally settled on one fixative and won't use anything else - Lascaux. It is consistently a very finemisty spray that affects the color the least. I use it very sparingly which is a good thing because it is very expensive. Still worth the price!
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:25 AM
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

no question is a dumb question ... like watercolours, pastels need to be framed under glass ... it can be placed right against the glass without a mat or with a mat and recommended spacers so that there is a space created at the bottom into which pastel dust that is jostled off inevitably over time falls can fall rather than onto the mat ... see http://www.artright.com/spacers.htm ...

this site http://sma.nebo.edu/exhibitions/exhibition_details.html?exhibition_id=16&name=Expl oring_Color_Harmony_in_Pastelssays this about framing pastels ...
Paintings may be framed with a mat or without. Most artists use a spacer between the mat and the pastel, or if framing without a mat they will use a spacer between the glass and the pastel. AR, or anti-reflective glass is very helpful to cut glare dramatically. The French method is to place the glass directly on the pastel surface, tape the edges of the painting and glass completely (no gaps) and then place in the frame.
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

As a RANK AMATEUR, one of the obstacles I have not gotten past is how to transfer a drawing onto pastel paper. I know some people use tracing paper, but how to go from the tracing paper to the pastel paper? I tried using plain old carbon paper from Staples, but that stuff seems to be waxy and showed thru the pastels. Does the graphite paper that Dick Blick sells work better?

Any ideas? This is a great thread.

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Old 04-19-2008, 10:55 AM
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Try charcoal on the back of the paper. Cover the back of your drawing and then tape it in place over the paper and trace it with a pencil. It works pretty well, and then you can even go back in with charcoal and touch up the drawing. You can pastel right over the charcoal since the light colors pretty much cover it up, as long as you don't have big thick black lines in the sky, or some such thing.

Let us know how it works...

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

I have also used a white pastel on the back side of vellum (which the original is drawn on) when transferring onto a dark ground. Because the vellum is translucent, you can see where the drawing is on the front when you turn it over and apply the white pastel on the back. This way you ony need to cover those areas where there are lines to transfer. Then you flip it over and redraw the image on the front and the white pastel transfers to the pastel ground If you are just tracing an outline (which is likely) then the single line transfered will give a good guide but not 'muck-up' the pastels that you add later.

Anyway... that is what I did for this picture - which involved getting the horse right (it is my neice on her horse... she would detect an error!). It is on Sennelier sanded Pastelbord which is very nice to work on.

It is my second work in pastel, and turned out not too bad.
A long journey ahead but one I am looking forward to!

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Wow great information. I've taken notes. Thanks so much...
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Namestel,

I'm glad to see you snooping around this thread. Lots of interesting little tidbits, a bit tedious to get through all of it, but well worth it!

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Hi
I am not a newbie to pastels but new to wet canvas, I bought some pastels called pan pastels has anybody heard of them,or used them. seems I can only purchase them in america and i am from the uk. Good reading great tips

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Luana,

I use greaseproof paper (yup that non-waxed lunch wrap that my sandwiches used to be in for school lunches) I trace over my image - and then use a pale pastel pencil in a colour that will show (without being overpowering) on the colour of the support I am using (usually colorfix).

Now this is the most impotant part of the whole thing don't press too hard! There is nothing worse than having to move an edge on your subject and finding that there is this groove that you have to try and fill with pastel - you never will though!

Just remember that no matter what pastel is a medium that you can move and brush off & start again - also if you use colorfix you can take it out and hose it off!! Then when its dry - start all over again!

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Sue,

I guess I'm still confused (but what do you expect from a rank amateur). Do you use the pale pastel pencil on the back of the sandwich paper, and then trace over the image onto the pastel paper?

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Old 05-31-2008, 11:20 PM
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

When I read it back I didn't say it too well did I Luana?

But that is right, I use the light pastel pencil on the back of the traced picture, and use another pencil or an empty ball point pen on the top to trace it onto my pastel paper.

Sorry about not being too clear there, I answer things, quite often, late at night and the fingers keep working but the pilot light has sometimes gone out !
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Hi
I am not a newbie to pastels but new to wet canvas, I bought some pastels called pan pastels has anybody heard of them,or used them. seems I can only purchase them in america and i am from the uk. Good reading great tips

Ann
You might want to check out this thread on Pan Pastels
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455375

As for stores that carry them, check the Pan Pastel site. There are a few in Europe. None in the UK, yet.
http://www.panpastel.com/international.html
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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

I have bought the soft pastels month ago...
now its time to use it
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Enjoy, ravi...!

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Re: "How to Get Started in Soft Pastels" for our newbies

Just bought my first set of 20 pans. Then I got on eBay, and of course I HAD to have a set of green Ludwigs on sale. This was after I got 2 sets of Ludwigs a couple of weeks ago. Do I have an addiction? Someone stop me! I'm out of control!!

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