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Old 01-01-2004, 12:31 AM
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Blue Irises

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Title: Blue Irises
Year Created: 2004
Medium: Acrylic
Surface: Canvas
Dimension: 9 & 1/2 x 12 & 1/2
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!

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flying by instinct...want to do a series like this in my lastest palette..used some flowers from ref lib as guide only for flowers structure..rest from imagination..

MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
I feel it needs more green in lower right corner. so prob will add this.
focal flower is the 3rd tall one on right..
area of concern..straight line of flowers..I will prob do focal flower a little larger, add more detail..
anything else glaringly wrong before I proceed?
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Old 01-01-2004, 02:10 AM
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I feel it needs more green in lower right corner. so prob will add this.
focal flower is the 3rd tall one on right..
area of concern..straight line of flowers..I will prob do focal flower a little larger, add more detail..
anything else glaringly wrong before I proceed?
Many thanks
Gill


I agree with everything you plan for this work in progress.
I don't find the straight line or flowers objectionable but I agree one of them needs to be bigger or something to add some interest to the row. As you say you are going to add more detail and I am assuming you might mean darks? it needs some darks (in the irises)
The stems are bothering me. I want them either to continue off the top or be shortened, one or the other. This is a "static" composition (I do not mean that in a bad way) As you have opted for a "serene" static row of flowers you now need something a bit more interesting happening in the area around the flowers. One way might be to provide more "air" above them. Here is a before & after --the after being a rough photoshop of more "air":
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thanks Celestia..been pondering this..
Still don't like the straight line thing even with the 'air' you've so kindly demonstrated..so
looking at it again this morning, have decided to shift the flowers round, bring the second from left flower up high, give it the focus, change any others that need it and give more variation to leaf lengths so there are some going off the page..I am more comfortable with this setup..you made me re-consider and it will be better for it..thanks so much
yes I will be adding more darks to the flowers, and perhaps a hint of another colour..
watch this space!!(I won't be working on it for a few days though..)
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gnu, you are right, my improvement is no improvement at all! so it was back to the drawing board for me to re-evaluate my assessment. I knew that this painting could use a change in its atmosphere--in the shape around the shapes..I knew that but I hurriedly landed on the idea that its more air. Now I realize it is less air! check this crop and tell me was I right about those pesky stems? This is compositionally stronger. And remember when anyone does an alteration of your work ..it is a tool for dialog only--never a solid prescription. Sorry for the initial bum steer.
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Old 01-02-2004, 12:52 AM
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yup much more like it!! yes I hate treading on toes...I HAVE to try not to get so anxious about saying the wrong thing!! sigh...
Just knew I didn't prefer the flat liner..
I will definitely lift one or two flowers up higher,, extend the stems..(this also gets rid of the 'too much yellow' prob)..so thanks
I don't have the same tools to alter images..so this is MOST helpful and has let me see that this is more.how I want it to be...

and NOW I can do the background more or less the same thru all the series..what I also wanted...thanks
Gill
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Attached is my quick take on this...
I think the white patches are disturbing the scene - they take over from the brighter parts of the flowers. Just getting rid of some of them improves a lot on the readability (less busy).
I also think it improves if you remove some of the leaves (I did so in the middle). I also brought some more yellow into the lower part of the painting to balance.

I got a bit carried away with using a dark outline on the flowers, a touch here and there maybe to enhance the major shapes/flows are in order, I went over the top. (I noticed you used this on some of the leaves and thought it could work well on the flowers too, but as I said, in this attachment I think it is too much).
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thanks Henrik..
I've decided to go with the stems all the way up, ...(already half decided to lose the whites on the leaves, and bring more yellow to bottom..)
I wanted a 'less realistic' look..more decorative, hence taking the stems all the way up...so not necessarily imitating HOW they grow..whereas the varied heights to me seems like I'm more imitating real life...
As long as one can see they're irises, I'll be happy..
I will be working more on darks in flowers..thanks again for you valuable imput...keeps giving me more of an idea where I'm heading with this little set..always helpful..
I'll be posting hopefully tomorrow sometime, an update, naybe even complete..
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Re: Blue Irises

here's my update..I may be adding a little more to flower centres...otherwise done..I've also finished 2 others to match..tulips and orchids..
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Re: Blue Irises

I much prefer your final edition of these irises. The cropping (or extending) of the flowers and leaves has transformed it. The previous yellow background (so much of it) wasn't helping your painting.

Good job,
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Re: Blue Irises

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I much prefer your final edition of these irises. The cropping (or extending) of the flowers and leaves has transformed it. The previous yellow background (so much of it) wasn't helping your painting.

Good job,
Diane
thanks Diane..it is SOOOO good to use other artists' eyes..we just can't see very objectively at times.. I much like this changed one too..
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Re: Blue Irises

gnu you improved it ten-fold. I note that you went for almost abstract on the stems (all the same color and tones) that seems a smart solution --also the new "variety" in heights and positions of the irises really helped it all together.
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gnu you improved it ten-fold. I note that you went for almost abstract on the stems (all the same color and tones) that seems a smart solution --also the new "variety" in heights and positions of the irises really helped it all together.
cool, I'm chuffed that you think so..
I had the stems 'flat' in my mind all along..so I went with that..in the end it doesn't detract from the flowers...I am soo glad I submitted it here..
I am happy there are no straight lines in the flower arrangement any more..
thanka all for your help..
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