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It's wonderful to meet you, silverflagon! I'm very glad you are posting now, and that you are doing more drawing. Thanks so much for sharing about yourself here. I hope that you will feel free to post comments on others' work in the forum, and show more of yours as well.
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Well..... I have always enjoyed art, even as a small kid but at the time I really did not know this, it was just there. I beleive I just see things a little a little more in focus then most. When I was in middle school or junior high if you will, I entered into the arts program but I mostly screwed around and really did not take full advantage of the instructions. I did however start working as a sign painter at 17, but I found I was doing more work with neon and electrical signs and less with pure painting. I the entered the service in 1968 and art took a back seat to the other things in life. Later on I took a class at a evening adult program and that is all it took, the fire was re-lit and I have been at it ever since. Oh there are periods where I do less than others but I always try to keep in practice. Another interesting thing is my daughter has just graduated from the Savannah College of Art and Design with a major in seqential arts ( comix !) and her path in art has been an insperation to me, also my niece will be attending the Maryland College of Art and Design this fall. It must be in the genes or the water! Over the past two years I have re-focused on my art; I have attended additional classes at the Monart School of Art, I have taken classes at the local Community College in watercolors, I attend a life drawing class each monday ( 5 dollars and they have beer! what a deal ), I have sold 4 commisioned portaits in pastels and I have just won an award in a local exhibit for a graphite drawing I have done. I look forward to interfacing with all of you in this wonderful forum, I know it will help my art in great ways.
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What a great thread, Eileen. I was away for a few days and this list has grown so long.

I am an electrical engineer, served in Singapore’s power utility for 25 years before I started running my own software company in 2000. I am still running it today. As such, I paint only in the evenings, weekends, and, alright, in some afternoons when I’m “off for meeting” (I wish art is as useful an excuse as golf).

I have been painting for about 6 years. Before that, my only exposures were pencil sketches and pattern design in school. I was “OK”, enough to get a pass, and a pass was enough. Then one Saturday 6 years ago, while trying to help my daughter with her art work, I was amazed that I could actually paint. In the beginning, I was playing with acrylics on wooden blocks, the “folk art”. Later, the art supplier encouraged me to use pre-stretched canvas. Soon I found myself painting landscape in acrylics on larger canvas. Art books filled my book selves and displaced all my technical books. I painted non-stop day after day, learning on my own, trying everything new.

Now, I stretch my own canvas, paint in both oil and acrylics, subjects include landscape, floral, animals and portraits. I started painting portraits of friends to give away when my other paintings began to cause a storage problem.

I found WC by accident.

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After the 2nd World War life wasn’t easy in England, but special memories still survive. Every year I’d be taken to the pantomine. The magic of the stage scenery and larger than life charismatic characters encouraged my desire to escape boring suburbia for a world of my imagination. My ambition was to be a scenery painter. Later, my parents took me The National Gallery at Trafalgar Square, where I saw students copying the great masters. What I saw of those exquisite paintings, together with the smell of turps and linseed oil gave me to next lasting impression. The one thing I desired was to be an artist of some kind. Tom Eckersley the commercial artist was my Hero. Looking at some of his work, I can see just how much my youthful impressions have affected me. When I passed the 13 plus exam for better schooling my parents wouldn’t allow me to go to an art school, so I ended up in engineering.

Every so often the question of being an artist would arise, but it seemed to me that it would never be possible to make a living from it. Everybody I knew thought the idea most unwise. So, I finally compromised and went into the photographic trade. Yet throughout my life there always seemed to be things getting in the way of success. I worked hard, yet there was always something going wrong. I had my dreams and have had some measure of success. My repeated failures and limited successes were hard to understand, what was wrong.

It is only now that I understand. Circumstances were not conspiring against me; they were trying to make me see the way I should go in life. The dream planted within me, as a child was so strong that anything else getting in its way was doomed to failure. It is regrettable; maybe I would have been a better artist if I had tried sooner, who can say. Now I am putting the past where it belongs and moving into the wealth of my childhood dream. What’s going to happen now? We shall see. I have a dream and I’ve learnt that nothing, absolutely nothing is going to get in its way.

So how did I hear about WC. A local artist told me about it, and sadly I don't seem him here at all.

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Hello stoney,
I couldn't find your post in that looooong thread , so maybe you could repost it here .


No problem. Here it is;


Oh my, where to start.

USN shipboard electrician.

Civilian machine tool electrician custom building induction heating/forging equipment then took a promotion to test technician.

USAF Avionics Communications Specialist working aircraft F4-C's.

USAF ACS working on communications and some navigation equipment on phase dock aircraft as well as tearing into the 'black boxes.' Also worked with satellite communications and 'Dick Tracey' stuff. This was on F4 E's and G's (G's were 'Wild Weasel')

USAF ACS working on communications and some navigation on F4-C's and T-33's on the flight line and in phase docks (scheduled maintenance). Took courses and got my '7' level on the navigation side, too.

USAF 'Comm/Nav/Penetration Aides' ("C" shop. Penn Aids was ECM-Electronic Counter Measures) shop working flightline, phase docks, and (some) black box on the F-16 A's and B's with the ADF (Area Defense Force) modifications. We were very restricted on what we could work on as well as we didn't have all the equipment for the black box benches.

Got my Associate of Science in Avionics Systems Technology with either 65 or 67 credits on the technical side.

I've been medically retired for fifteen years at 48 with 100% disability.

[addition] I stumbled over Wet Canvas about a year and a half ago. After seeing the span of subjects and it was an assistance site, I metaphorically 'dove off the cliff' into this terminally alien art world.

My eyesight sucks, and my motor control leaves much to be desired. There are times when there's no point in picking up a paint brush.
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Well..... I have always enjoyed art, even as a small kid but at the time I really did not know this, it was just there. I beleive I just see things a little a little more in focus then most. When I was in middle school or junior high if you will, I entered into the arts program but I mostly screwed around and really did not take full advantage of the instructions. I did however start working as a sign painter at 17, but I found I was doing more work with neon and electrical signs and less with pure painting. I the entered the service in 1968 and art took a back seat to the other things in life. Later on I took a class at a evening adult program and that is all it took, the fire was re-lit and I have been at it ever since. Oh there are periods where I do less than others but I always try to keep in practice. Another interesting thing is my daughter has just graduated from the Savannah College of Art and Design with a major in seqential arts ( comix !) and her path in art has been an insperation to me, also my niece will be attending the Maryland College of Art and Design this fall. It must be in the genes or the water! Over the past two years I have re-focused on my art; I have attended additional classes at the Monart School of Art, I have taken classes at the local Community College in watercolors, I attend a life drawing class each monday ( 5 dollars and they have beer! what a deal ), I have sold 4 commisioned portaits in pastels and I have just won an award in a local exhibit for a graphite drawing I have done. I look forward to interfacing with all of you in this wonderful forum, I know it will help my art in great ways.

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Hi all Great idea for a thread Eileen.

I have always loved to draw/colour in.. at school I spent more time on the pictures on my projects than any useful information. I took art at school, but as someone said, it was also more 'craft'. I loved doing wood cuts (still have the scar on my thumb from a wayward tool!). I also enjoyed metal work, photography and woodwork, although these were only in bursts of 3 months, so you didn't really learn much. My parents while not really encouraging me to pursue art did always get me birthday and christmas gifts that were ultimately creative. Paint by numbers, Felt painting kits, Fuzzy Felt, knitting and sewing kits etc...and of course lots of books. I went into banking and accounting as a career, but have ALWAYS hated it. I had a brief interlude in the tourism industry which I love and miss lots. Reading some replies, I find it interesting that so many 'arty' people take on careers in 'numbers'!

My first commission if you will, was at 19 when a co-worker wanted a Kermit and Miss Piggy painting for her daughter.. lol... She gave me $20 to cover costs.
After that I hardly painted at all, and it wasnt until around 1991 when I worked and lived in a remote tourist area that art came back. Each end of tourist season we would have a ball, and decorate the huge hotel lounge.
I did several themes including Gary Larson Far Side characters, Under the Sea and The Flintstones. I also sketched some portraits for another event I started there, a drag show.. hahahah... I sketched Marilyn, Madonna and Elvis on huge paper and people actually asked to take them home with them.
I also helped design a restaurant menu cover and a concept for one of the tourist boats. For the boat design, done in secret.. I got 12 bottles of wine, the company that took the design and vamped it up, got $12,000.

Since then, I have moved to Canada with hubby and as I am not working, I have had almost 2 years to 'play around', trying to teach myself to paint better. I participated in one of the MOM's in the oil forum and actually sold that pic for $50. (bought more paints with the money.. lol). I am also an avid Modigliani fan... I have painted 6 of his and have them hanging in my home along with some Rosina Wachtmeisters, another fave of mine. Im currently working on a series of 'ladies' and also trying my hand at a Degas.. hilarious for sure. Hopefully one of these days I will be good enough to sell some original work.

My brother is a graphic designer but his true love is radios, gramaphones, morse code.. lol.... My mother loves to try little craft projects but is not into painting or drawing. My Dad is the reader of the family and passed that down to me also... I can never get enough to read!

I found WC! by accident one day and have never looked back. People here are wonderful and supportive and on those days when you think about giving up its great to pop in and check out what everyone is doing and realise you are not alone in your frustrations. Thanks WC!

Ok.. Im done waffling... have a great week everyone!
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Ive been away on a cruise for a week and when I came back we have been having our roof redone and putting in skylights. I paint and use my computer in the attic so between the cruise and the roof work I have been out of commission for 3 weeks. There has been so much new work submitted I'll never be able to comment on all of them. Saw this thread and it seems like a good way to get back into the wetcanvas mode.

As long as I can remember I loved to draw and even as a little child told people I was an "artist" and I always loved drawing people. But I never did anything about persuing lessons other than getting the John Nagy set. I always had fun with my art. Did posters for friends in school running for elections, in college did portraits of all my friends girlfriends so they could make points with the girlfriend, in the Navy did the cartoons for the ships cruise book.

After college and the Navy, I worked as a social worker and as before did portaits for friends (mostly for free or as gifts]
I got involved doing cartoons for events in the office (retirements, weddings etc) and one day made up a group of cartoons and submitted them to a local newspaper. They liked them and for about 7 years I did a weekly cartoon making fun of situations in the town. They were more humerous than political. It ended when the ownership changed hands and they no longer used cartoons.

With work and raising a family I could go a long time without really doing anything serious. On camping trips I would do quick pen and inks of scenes and of the family as a record, but sometimes I could go months without doing anything but a doodle while at a meeting.

I continued in this way until about 6 or 7 years ago when I joined a local art group. Meeting weekly with fellow artist, having discussions, seeing their work, having group exhibits, all helps to keep me inspired. I think my work has improved since I now paint almost daily. There hadnt been much change over the years when I would do one or two painting a year.

And Wetcanvas has had a similar effect on me. While I dont meet personally as with my art group it is very much like it in spirit

Withour realizing it I guess my interest in art inspired my daughter. She decided to go to art school and studied as an illustrator. Her husband is also and illustrator.
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Would you believe I found Wet Canvas in a Comsumer Report magazine?

I am surprised at all the older people here. What a great hobby to take up when you retire. I am 60 years old, but I've been involved with art since I was 8. My first drawings were the animals off a deck of animal cards and I've been drawing since.

I did go to college for art and became an art teacher. I taught art for 13 years and then quit to have a family. My children are grown--26,25, and 20--and now I am back to drawing. In those years of just a stay at home mom, I did all sorts of other art. I made rya rugs, draperies for my home, cut and pierced lamp shades, cross stitch (I have a small gallery of old masters that I tranfered into some type of needlework), I knit sweaters, made my girls dresses, etc, etc. I have always enjoyed all types of art.

I had my own business with porcelain dolls that I sculpted and hand crafted and sewed clothing for. I really enjoyed that, but a total knee replacement caused problems carrying the greenware down the cellar steps to my kiln, so I turned to portraiture. I draw my portraits with graphite because I love the black and white, but sometimes I dream of using oils.

Right now, I am trying to do art fairs and sell my work, but this is not the year for that and I am not selling. I am, however, stockpiling my drawings so that someday when I become famous, someone can make lots of money off them.

Here is a photo of me so you will know me better. I took this this afternoon, so it is current.
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Hi, everybody. I was referred here to wetcanvas.com by someone at portrait artist forum. I wanted to learn how to do portraits, so I thought I could learn from them. I'm pretty sure that's the web site. Anyway, they said I needed to learn 1. to draw, 2. form, and 3. something else I didn't know ( I forgot). They were correct, of course. I am totally thrilled to find wetcanvas.com. I am learning about form, drawing and whatever that third thing is.

Some people have mentioned how they got into art. I was never talented in art and never considered myself an artist. About 3 years ago, I taught myself how to crochet using the internet and books. I'm an avid reader. I've been into cross-stitch and other crafts since my twenties. One day, a couple years ago, I saw Frank Clarke on PBS and I wanted to learn watercolors. So, I learned the same way as with the crochet. Internet and books. And PBS. From watercolors, I learned a little calligraphy, then Ink/acrylic painting, then on to pastels. I am so obsessed with it all right now. Is is so cool to be able to paint and draw and learn whatever I want to learn. I wish you had a dancing icon. I'd be dancing across the screen right now.
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Eileen, this is great. Thanks for being so faithful to the forum and for coming up with such creative ideas!

I'm compelled to add my signature since I've now learned so many others' stories.

My mother was an artist but she only painted from published photos especially the National Geographic. Her work pretty much stayed in the closet although she was very good. My father once dreamed of being an artist and spent his early years as a draftsman but the war came and then the depression so he was forced to pursue a more practical means of existance. Because of this any desire I showed toward the arts he tried to discourage. My mother on the other hand used to give me her used oil paints whenever she got replenished. I would close all the doors to the kitchen, turn on the hi-fi to Beethoven's ninth and paint for hours. Seeing my passion, mom set me up with art lessons from a good friend of hers, and a fairly well know sculptress. I loved scupting in clay and was actually pretty good at it. In fact, I won my first ribbon with a bust I did of a friend of mine. My first portrait! Then I started carving out of ivory soap little statues of Jesus and sold them to everyone at church. I was twelve then. My statues were a hot item! I wonder if anyone still has them.

I guess mom and dad kind of played tug-a-war with my ambitions. I excelled in school in the arts and didn't do all that well in my other subjects, especially math. My dad thought I doodled too much (you should have seen my notebook. There was a eye staring at you on every page...just one. Never bothered to make the match). My life long dream was to do animation for Disney. I lived very close to Disneyland and went there so many times (including the very first week it opened) that I pretty much considered it my second home. I'm a dreamer.
When graduation came I begged my parents to let me go to art school but dad won out. By that time all the art schools in CA were protesting and having love-ins so I was steered away from that course. Frustrated, I applied to the academic colleges, and purposely all the colleges I applied to were out of state. I guess I was planning on getting my independence around then. I was accepted at a university in AZ but little did I know the art dept was not of very good quality. I pretty much left sculpture and painting (and civilization for that matter...the 60s, anyone remember?) and satisfied the creative desire by doing beadwork and weaving. (Found myself living in the desert next to the Indian Reservation.) I sold some paintings during that era in my life, but by then I started my career as a mother and like many here, had to lay the brushes down. Today I am a mom of seven and grandmother of 13 and free to paint. I've returned to school off and on (oh, and I've returned to civilization too!!) attended workshops and am always anxious to learn. I hold open studio at my home twice a month, participate in Plein air outings and even started a local plein air group, and am VP of our local art guild. I've even taught some lessons lately too.

I've been told many times my best work is my portrait work and I do so love it, that and figure studies. Plein air is really good for me as I think it helps working with a live model. I've learned to see better. My dream is to excel and paint the way I wish I could.
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I have been asked to explain what I called the cross method... Sorry about not explaining sooner... I have had some very pressing personal matters to take care of....The man that showed me this very simply drew a cross on the paper....for instance a vertical line 5 inches long and a horizontal line 3 inches wide...he split the verticle line into 5 equal parts, placed the horizontal line along the second section of it or at the two inch mark... he split the horizontal line into 3 equal sections, had me place the ovals for the eyes on the horizontal lines...then he told me to place the nose below the eye line at a point that looked right to me and place the mouth below, then shape the face around these features...I have always since reffered to it as the cross method...I figure someone showed him this and he passed it on to me...It is not the most accurate but it helps line up the eyes...
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First let me reiterate that this thread was not my idea - I stole it from Reinhard in the drawing and sketching forum .

Gary, thanks for sharing your background. Congrats on the sales and the award - it's great to have you posting in the forum.

Alan, loved your comment about sneaking some painting in while allegedly off at meetings!

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I love this quote, Mikey. You are inspiring to me.

Thanks for reposting that, stoney.

Sally Ann, there is no question in my mind that your work will be selling, and will be in demand. Thanks for sharing this.

Terry, you have an interesting background. Doing a weekly cartoon for 7 years must have called for a lot of creativity! Glad you stopped in here.

Carol, a consumer reports magazine?? I can't imagine, LOL. Thanks for sharing this lovely photo. Your work is so beautifully and sensitively rendered - I think you just have to find the right avenue to market it. I think you would do brilliantly with oils. I started using them at the beginning of this year, and I love them.

Andagail, your enthusiasm is catching ! It is exciting to watch your progress in your work. Thanks for joining in here.

Dianne, I agree that your best work is your portrait work! I may be a little biased, since that is my favorite subject... As far as your tidbit about the oils - I just use the paint straight from the tube, with no added oil. And I clean the brushes with Ivory soap and water (oh, I do soak them in safflower oil first).

Nancy, thanks for explaining that method. I've never heard it referred to as the cross method, but it does make sense to call it that!
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I use oils and I never touch turps anymore. Everything can be done with linseed oil. You can even wash your brushes with linseed oil and then again with 'the masters' brush cleaner and hot water. No nasty fumes!

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