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View Poll Results: Do You Use a Color Chart?
Big Yes: a big one that's posted near my painting location 83 18.86%
Yes: but I don't really use it as much as I thought I would 93 21.14%
Sort of: not complete, used only for special purposes 76 17.27%
Not really: some half-hearted attempts, not much used 99 22.50%
No: the time should be spent painting, not making little boxes 89 20.23%
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Old 12-10-2010, 02:16 AM
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

No - painting plein air is :
The paper on my lap - left hand palette - right hand brush -
( and I dont have more then 2 hands )
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

No - used to have one someplace. But a fast lersson from Doug Purdon ( the WN agent here ) got me colour oriented. But do use spare paper to trest mixed colours before putting 'em on.

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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

As experienced artists, I'm sure that colour charts are not needed. You're very familiar with your palette and understand what your pigments will do for you. Even mixing becomes second nature when your palette is a limited one.

However, emerging artists really don't know and don't understand what their paints can do for them. Learning some colour theory will push them ahead on their journey to learn and grown their art. It will also help them prevent some of the frustrating mistakes that can discourage them from painting at all.

There's really nothing *artistic* about mixing mud unless you did it purposely ala Jeanne Dobie...
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

There's a lot to learn and keep learning before you can pretend that it all comes natural on account of pure talent. It took me years to sort out my colours and I never used much red until the last couple of years. The thing that matters most to me or at least is most useful is that there really are only a few colours or basic combos that are at the center of any system of mixing. Everything plugs in to the basics.
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

Char makes a very good point.
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

Yes, from time to time I do. For example, if I want to compare 4 or 5 different yellows to see how similar or different they are. I also like to compare tinted and toned colors with their closest single pigment paint to see how they may transition lighter or darker in value and hue than the single pigment color.

And, sometimes, when the creative energy just isn't enough to paint a "real" painting, I'll do a chart of something, for example, the green colors one gets by mixing a wide range of selected colors. It's a useful "non-thinking" exercise that helps fill my "energy tank" sometimes.

As Char says, however, I've been painting long enough to have a reasonable understanding of my chosen palette of colors and how to use them in a personal way. It's only taken 20 years (or more)!

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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

yes it also helps to see how the pigment behaves.
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I have lots of made up extensive colour charts, greens, greys, you name it, and recently made one up from the 66 Dot Daniel Smith Try-it sheet.

These days I rarely look at them and this isn't due to arrogance believing I know it all. Watercolour is a spontaneous or accidental medium and I prefer to `suck it and see'. Happy accidents and all that. I know others will disagree and say you must plan this and that etc etc. My riposte would be each to his own. I am an amateur painter and paint as a hobby. Yes, I do consider myself a serious amateur but if my slightly slap happy approach leads to many failures then so be it. All painters. particularly in watercolour have failures. It can be depressing occasionally but, providing you continue to paint that special painting will appear and make up for everything. Just my slant on things.

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I use them only on the colors I pick for a particular painting.But seeing how useful they're I will do one of all the colors I own.I believe that is a good habit and helps a lot to novices like me.

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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

Sort of.

While knowing your tools is vital, you don't want to spend more time examining them than your painting. But as a beginner one shouldn't underestimate this exercise.
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

no- as i only have five tubes of paint- black- white- yellow- red and blue. so by now i pretty much know what i can do with these.
i will never tackle too many colours at any one time- I dont want to be baffled my an array of colours- I want to get to know them gradually and to know them well. keeping a limited palette allows you to be able to take control and to memorise the mixes.
i think if i had loads of different colours then id need one i guess.
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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart


Rembrandt 48 half pans set on Arches CP and Moleskine W/C. I usually do one that fits the box and it stays there for at least as long as I familiarise with them...
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Whoa! Now that's a lot of colors! Good on you.

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The more the merrier . As Virgil says sling paint!

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Re: POLL: Do You Use a Color Chart

Colour charts are good to test transparency of a certain pigment wash over some other pigment. For example, what exact orange will be created by glazing some red over some yellow.

However, plain colour charts with single colour (from the palette) washes have little application. In print, such colour charts are alpha and omega, because using them operators and designers can preserve the colour accuracy of the print run and appearance of colours across different papers, but in watercolour painting, where amount of water and pigment brush picks up is different every time and not strictly controlled by a machine, makes such charts almost pointless.

Well, at least in the beginning, when artists is still exploring certain pigments and papers. But even then amount of water added is not controllable perfectly, so washes will vary from painting to painting, from one paper to other. Thus charts become "charts of paper behaviour", not exactly "charts of colour".

Such charts made for different papers, perhaps, make sense in particular watercolour applications (say botanical illustrations), where artist wants certain colour preserved, and/or is trying to mix that "exact" hue on a certain part of picture, on a certain paper.
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