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Old 03-23-2013, 06:53 AM
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Re: Sargent: Portrait Challenge for April & May - Extended into June!

I am considering this work as a big challenge and still a WIP. I started last weekend and I am still working on it. I became fascinated in how this artist worked with his brushes and a limited palette. He used ivory black according to many experts and I had a hard time using dark colors since pastel does not have deep dark tones unless black is used. I used a lot of black in order to bring the values to a decent level.
I used an Ampersand board, 16x19, gray toned. I started with the hard pastels, then followed by the Unison and Schminke, and pastel pencils occasionally. I would like to have some C & C.
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Incredible. Do you think you'll do one in oils? Would love to see that.
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It is really good. I like your pastel strokes. Has a painterly feel. Very nice. Terry Ludwig pastels have some wonderful darks. Although I think you did well with black.
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Re: Sargent: Portrait Challenge for April & May - Extended into June!

Moe,

This is incredible! You have excellent control of the light and dark. Like the colors around both eyes, the violet on the our right eye lid. I am very happy with it if it were mine. Do not know too much to suggest more improvement.
Looking forward to learn what more could be done. Thanks for sharing.

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Amrits: Thank you for your comment. I wish I could try oils but due to my job I could not find the time to dedicate to oil alone for obvious reasons. In fact, many years ago I painted "Lady Agnew" using oil. I may show it one of these days.
Carmel: Thank you for your comments. Yes, my wife who is my main critique, mentioned to me that the painting resemble an oil work. She is no painter! By the way, I used American Works pastels, but again, I have to use black soft pastels.
Kim: Thank you for your comments. Since you mentioned the darks and lights, I am obsessed on values! I feel that values are probably more important than colors(personal opinion), and I will do anything to render the proper values to a portrait. I have read many books and magazines regarding values, and lately, the use of "NOTAN" for portraits, which is how paintings can use the harmony of the darks and the lights.
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Re: Sargent: Portrait Challenge for April & May - Extended into June!

Hi,
I decided to give some touches to this portrait especially at to his left ear so it will be less conspicuous and follow the angle of the face. I also increased the values at the forehead, and I think I am now done. Thank you.
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Re: Sargent: Portrait Challenge for April & May - Extended into June!

Moe,

Thanks for the update. I do see the value increased in the forehead and I love both the before and after. You technical skill make the pastel strokes look so fluid. My current teacher has a painting with strokes just like that. I like my teacher, he can do pastel, oil, charcoal etc.

May I ask, in what book the "NOTAN for portaits" are demonstrated. Or where can I read more about this? It sound very interesting. Thanks

Kim
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Re: Sargent: Portrait Challenge for April & May - Extended into June!

Thank you Kim.
NOTAN is a Japanese word that means something like harmony of the darks and lights. In fact, I saw the definition and the application in one of the forums in wetcanvas, and I believe it was in EXPLORE SUBJECTS, FIGURE, THE. Of course, if you google notan for portraits it will give you the different websites that you can attend to. I think that the concept of Notan is mainly applied for still life and landscaping, subjects that I am not very familiar with.
I also believe that the old masters like Caravaggio, Rembrandt, Velasquez, and Sargent, to name a few, use the concept of dark and light to their advantage and to their greatness in portraiture.
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