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Old 09-19-2019, 10:00 PM
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Re: Art shows when you don't want to sell the piece. Advice?

Put a reasonable price on it and make sure your mate gets in there first and buys it. Problem solved.
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Re: Art shows when you don't want to sell the piece. Advice?

30% or 40% ??? Where to you live, Ohio?

Trust me, I know how cheap many things related to art are in Ohio... even though Cleveland is a large city with a world-class museum, orchestra, and other cultural amenities. 50%... 60% or more was not uncommon in New York. 40% was the common commission in Cleveland... although we charged 30% as an artist-run gallery and there were several other similar galleries or art institutions that charged a similar rate.
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Re: Art shows when you don't want to sell the piece. Advice?

In Cleveland... and later in New York... there was a group of artists that exhibited under the moniker, Art Without Walls. The group cut deals with some real-estate developers to help demo and clean industrial warehouse spaces. In return, they were given space within these buildings for a period of time in order to stage art exhibitions. The art wall hung from the ceiling rafters or on temporary rolling walls.
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In Cleveland... and later in New York... there was a group of artists that exhibited under the moniker, Art Without Walls. The group cut deals with some real-estate developers to help demo and clean industrial warehouse spaces. In return, they were given space within these buildings for a period of time in order to stage art exhibitions. The art wall hung from the ceiling rafters or on temporary rolling walls.

I've been looking at such for the last year. Because there are so many empty high street shops here in the UK there is a government initiative to use the empty spaces.
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Put a reasonable price on it and make sure your mate gets in there first and buys it. Problem solved.
only you'd lose 50% of your money that the gallery would take.
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only you'd lose 50% of your money that the gallery would take.

Is that the amount a local art society exhibition charges? If so one could sell it cheaply.
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I'm all for honesty. This sort of thing is what gives artists a bad name online. Many artists put "sold" with their paintings online, when it's clear (something only a blind person or family member would pay for) that's not the case.

I could mention a number of artists in prestigious museums who give art a bad name with something only a blind person or a family member would pay for, and yet there it is on the museum wall, after being paid for with millions of museum money. That is not even mentioning the "art" pieces that have been legitimately mistaken for garbage by custodial staff and tidied up... I would not be at all so sure that those amateur artist pieces have not been sold.
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Re: Art shows when you don't want to sell the piece. Advice?

I like your attitude, but in my case, I cannot devote a big chunk of my time and money (for supplies, transportation, overhead etc,) for the joy of creating. I also do not think of myself as a crass materialist. There's nothing like a paycheck to tell you you've done a good job.

I have a few pieces that I have decided never to sell. They just sit in my house. I tinker with them occasionally. They are my version of the classic hobby car in the garage. They are usually my worst pieces and I am embarrassed to show them in public. The kinds of things that have major flaws that I am just too lazy to fix-- or "learning pieces."
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Re: Art shows when you don't want to sell the piece. Advice?

I have a couple of paintings that I am glad have not sold yet. I have a few that sold that I miss terribly. Mostly I love selling paintings. It means someone else loves my work enough to want to trade me something of value for it.
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30% or 40% ??? Where to you live, Ohio?

Trust me, I know how cheap many things related to art are in Ohio... even though Cleveland is a large city with a world-class museum, orchestra, and other cultural amenities. 50%... 60% or more was not uncommon in New York. 40% was the common commission in Cleveland... although we charged 30% as an artist-run gallery and there were several other similar galleries or art institutions that charged a similar rate.

Like I said, I was only joking with you, but I figured your defenses would come out anyway. I know Cleveland is a great cultural city. I have been there a few times!
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I have a couple of paintings that I am glad have not sold yet. I have a few that sold that I miss terribly. Mostly I love selling paintings. It means someone else loves my work enough to want to trade me something of value for it.

Same here, there are two I have sold that I always kick myself for. I miss them. One I sold for hardly anything early on and the other I sold for a lot, and both hurt the same. It didn't matter what I sold them for, I regret it terribly. Now, the ones in my own collection are just marked NFS on my website. I will not sell them, no way. No how!
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I like your attitude, but in my case, I cannot devote a big chunk of my time and money (for supplies, transportation, overhead etc,) for the joy of creating. I also do not think of myself as a crass materialist. There's nothing like a paycheck to tell you you've done a good job.


Actually, there is-- cash.
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