[FONT=&quot]Hello!

I have a problem. I’ve used Bob Ross’ Liquid white paint and now can’t afford to replace it. I’ve been told by an art supplies shop assistant that Winsor and Newton used to have a leaflet advising how to make similar Liquid white yourself, but the shop assistant no longer had the leaflet and had one of the ingredients missing from what she remembered.
The ingredients were,
Titanium white paint
Paint solvent
and something else?!?

Can anyone help with the last ingredient and the quantities involved?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers[/FONT]

Hi Jan, I just use a mixture of 1/2 titanium white and 1/2 linseed oil. It goes on very smoothly and thinly (is that a word?). I use it for skies in particular and it works great.

Hello Jan, and welcome to the Oil Forum.

I tracked down this information on the same question, posted at a Daler-Rowney forum thread

“to make a liquid white just add some stand linseed oil to some white oil paint until you get a mixture about the same as liquid white.I just use stand linseed oil to coat the canvas with instead of liquid clear,just wipe it over with kitch towel first to make sure you havent got too much on there.It works just as well,I use it in my classes with the same effect.”

However, I would be very hesitant about using stand oil at such an early stage in the painting.

Based on the product definition : “LIQUID WHITE is a very slow drying oil paint designed to provide a proper painting surface. LIQUID WHITE is also used to thin other oil colours for application over a thicker paint.”

If you use a solvent to thin Titanium white, it will speed drying time because you have thinned the oil. If you want a slower drying time, don’t use as much, if any, solvent; instead, use regular linseed or walnut oil, but only enough to make your paint ‘buttery’. You will find you actually have plenty of time to paint into it.

Note : I have never used Bob Ross products, and wouldn’t think of painting this way. The canvas already IS a proper painting surface; so maybe others here can better help you out with this.

cheers!

Hello Jan, and welcome to the Oil Forum.

I tracked down this information on the same question, posted at a [url=http://www.daler-rowney.com/artforum/start.asp?forumid=28&select=1062&]Daler-Rowney forum thread[/url]

[i]“to make a liquid white just add some stand linseed oil to some white oil paint until you get a mixture about the same as liquid white.I just use stand linseed oil to coat the canvas with instead of liquid clear,just wipe it over with kitch towel first to make sure you havent got too much on there.It works just as well,I use it in my classes with the same effect.”[/i]

However, I would be very hesitant about using stand oil at such an early stage in the painting.

Based on the [url=http://www.artistscorner.co.uk/acatalog/Art_Materials_Bob_Ross_Mediums_etc__334.html]product definition[/url] : “LIQUID WHITE is a very slow drying oil paint designed to provide a proper painting surface. LIQUID WHITE is also used to thin other oil colours for application over a thicker paint.”

If you use a solvent to thin Titanium white, it will speed drying time because you have thinned the oil. If you want a slower drying time, don’t use as much, if any, solvent; instead, use regular linseed or walnut oil, but only enough to make your paint ‘buttery’. You will find you actually have plenty of time to paint into it.

Note : I have never used Bob Ross products, and wouldn’t think of painting this way. The canvas already [i]IS[/i] a proper painting surface; so maybe others here can better help you out with this.

cheers!

Thanks for that info, Robert. Say, why would you be hesitant about using stand oil at that early stage? It ends up mixing with the over painting.

Hi Jan, to answer the basic question I would suggest you try thinning a normal Titanium White with spirits and a touch of additional oil to make your equivalent.

I’m with Robert on being reticent about using much additional stand oil in ‘underpainting’, particularly if you use much of it. But if you’re completing the painting in a single sitting this shouldn’t be as big an issue as it would be if you intended to build up a number of layers on top of it.

If you are going to paint in layers I would suggest you either not use any or only a couple of drops, literally; but if you’re painting like Bob Ross then you shouldn’t have much to worry about, still, use as little as possible to get the effect you want.

Einion

Why all the furore about Bob Ross quote ” I wouldn’t think of painting this way” and the comment about greasing your canvas what a statement,i don’t think that vlandry could have been to a class held by a recognised Bob Ross instructor as i couldn’t imagine them useing safflower oil and liquin, you might as well use sunflower oil and white gouache, i have used liquid white and can assure you my canvas isn’t greased, take a look at my paintings i am sure you will see the canvas doesn’t look as if it has grease on it and i have found the drying time the same as normal oil paints, if you wish to substitute liquid white with an alternative may i suggest you experiment until you get the desired medium, you will probably find the amount of time, materials and effort you put into finding an alternative it would probably have been cheaper to purchase the liquid white in the first instance, after all would you consider making your own oil paints by grinding down different pigments? i think not, or how about breeding your own pigs to get the hair to make some brushes, it goes on and on, it depends on what you call expensive, i must have got at least 30 20″ x 16″paintings out of a small tin of liquid white, it is meant to be used sparelingly and i personally have never had any probelms with it, thats my two penneth.
jack

Why all the furore about Bob Ross quote ” I wouldn’t think of painting this way” and the comment about greasing your canvas what a statement

It’s not a furor that I can see. I even took time to track down the most relevant information I could find and post it. That I wouldn’t paint this way is admittedly merely my opinion, and now we have more opinions, including yours, which I also distinctly asked for when suggesting that “maybe others here can better help you out with this”.

[FONT=&quot]Hello!

I have a problem. I’ve used Bob Ross’ Liquid white paint and now can’t afford to replace it. I’ve been told by an art supplies shop assistant that Winsor and Newton used to have a leaflet advising how to make similar Liquid white yourself, but the shop assistant no longer had the leaflet and had one of the ingredients missing from what she remembered.
The ingredients were,
Titanium white paint
Paint solvent
and something else?!?
…
Cheers[/FONT]

This is a late answer to your question, but you can duplicate Liquid White without even mixing it. Simply coat your canvas with a very thin coat of boiled linseed oil. Then, using a large brush, apply a thin layer of titanium white. For Liquid Clear, just use the boiled linseed oil. By the way, “boiled linseed oil” is not boiled, it is raw linseed oil which has had dryers added to make it dry faster. It should dry in about 24 hours, depending upon the paint you mix into it. You can also use raw linseed oil and wait 3 weeks for it to dry.