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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

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You may not agree, but with all the variations, movements, "the shock of the new" and formulaic work, it seems that simple realism in many forms survives and maintains a foothold in Art History of the past and present.

I think realism will always survive, it's easy to relate to it. I've had one modern painter try to tell me how limiting it is I felt sad that he couldn't see what I see in it, I don't see the limitations.
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

I had a friend who produced and sold large abstracts (literally throwing painting at the canvas) being rather proud of her inability to draw and apple.
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Bob Ross and Bill Alexander brought joy into the lives of millions of people.
Art - schmart!
If I could do what they did, I'd be very happy.
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Bob Ross and Bill Alexander brought joy into the lives of millions of people.
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And they still are. Bob Ross on PBS should also be considered a work of performance art.
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When artist seems to be Great, then many other artists starts to produce a lot of copies of his works and even tries to steal his painting ideas! The "Television" conception of Bob Ross helps us to introduce huge amount of his art style into human society regardless how great or poor artist he was. He did his art to be extremely wide spreading over the wold by using huge mass media advertisment. I can see many paintings that done strongly according his working method even in our country art market. He joined into the history of 21-st century art! Easy mass- production cause them to be very popular to sell them to tourists, visited our city. They proposed me to buy these paintings many times. His art conception and his success drives the brain of billion different artists!

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Andy Warhol was about commercialism and mass production. Is that Art?

Boxing is sometimes described as an Art. I think the word Art is totally meaningless and can be whatever you want it to be.
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I had no idea what i was getting into when i joined this "art" forum!
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I loved the show, and Mr. Alexander's show, also. They both made lots of people realize that they too could paint, and also have fun painting. And their art was (and still is) better than lots of other trash art that (for whatever reason) seems to be more popular.
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painting a mountain, clouds, or an apple is a craft.
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

The thing that drives me nuts about Bob Ross' work is it is so repetitive. But then Jackson Pollock did pretty much the same thing over and over, and Monet would happily do 25 canvases of the same subject, so I don't suppose the argument holds much water.
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When I compare Bob Ross paintings with some of the junk that sells for tens of millions in Christies auctions, I'd rather have a Bob Ross hanging on my wall any day.
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

Whether Ross/Alexander are your favorites or not, they teach a basic process that works. What more can a teacher give? Then its up to the individual to adapt as they see fit.
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

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When I compare Bob Ross paintings with some of the junk that sells for tens of millions in Christies auctions, I'd rather have a Bob Ross hanging on my wall any day.

Can't argue with that. Like this thing, by some guy named Bisquick or something:



that went for 110 million. I truly believe it should be hanging in a dumpster. If someone had offered me this for $100 at the park, I would not have even stopped walking. I would have felt insulted by the offer. Bob Ross would at least get a serious perusal, because I know he has done decent nice-looking work that won't have me looking for one of those little bags they give you on rough airline flights.

I can't help but think the guy in the suit is saying something about the exquisite subtlety of the painting.

You know, it's a funny thing, but one reason I wouldn't mind having one of the better Bob Rosses on the wall is that every time I looked at it I would hear his voice. That voice calms me, and I need all of that I can get.

According to internationally respected authorities* many a Bob Ross painting can be had for a thousand or two. And there are an estimated 30,000 of them out there!

* The authority in question is the guy on the internet that told me so
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

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If we went by output, I'm sure that Bob would be on that list. I wonder how many hundreds of paintings he did? I think there were around 400 episodes - and that is just the ones he did on tv

According to Ross himself his lifetime output was 30,000 paintings, and the figure seems to be widely accepted. It's indisputable that he did close to 1200 just for the TV series, 3 copies for each episode and there were 403, IIRC.

If you do some arithmetic that works out to about 5 a day for 20 years. I'm not sure how long his painting career was though.

One of the big questions is, where are they all?

My belief is that most of them wound up in attics and basement storage areas, only to be discarded when the owner died. For a long time they had no market value at all. Sad to think that most of his life work now resides in the bottom of landfills. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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Re: Bob Ross/Alexander technique - what's your opinion?

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There is no verbal definition of "art", as each person has their own individual perception of what art is.

And, in my opinion, conversations about defining art are about as meaningless as one can get!

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