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Old 06-24-2019, 01:19 PM
ReasonablyIntelligen ReasonablyIntelligen is offline
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Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

Total newbie here

I've recently taken to making my own watercolour paints because apparently I hate my shoulder muscles and my carpets.

I've got most of the process down but I cannot figure out for the life of me when to stop mulling.

Is there a clear indication for when the pigment is fully dispersed?
I've been told to look out for when it goes shiny but that happens pretty fast and testing the paint doesn't shed much light for me either.

An example is I spent most of this afternoon making a Prussian Blue (using Prussian Blue LUX 45202 from Kremer) - I recorded myself doing it to try and see a difference in start and finish (and redefine watching paint dry) and from about 5 minutes in, it looks the same. I mulled away for over an hour and can't help but think I could have got away with just those first few minutes.

I know that each pigment will have a different mix time, and a different binder ratio, but how do you know when you've got it right?

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Old 06-24-2019, 02:13 PM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

A few days ago I processed milori blue, after 4-5 minutes the colour was finished.
I added spirits so that the pigment also sinks into the binder and does not float above and the pigment grains do not stick to each other.
I always make sure that no small lumps remain.
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Old 06-24-2019, 02:32 PM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

You need alcohol for prussian blue, and also for all the organic pigments. Use extra binder since otherwise it will become crumbly after the alcohol evaporates.

how to know when done http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...73&postcount=5

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Old 06-24-2019, 02:35 PM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

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You need alcohol for prussian blue, and also for all the organic pigments. Use extra binder since otherwise it will become crumbly after the alcohol evaporates.

Really? I've not seen that mentioned for watercolour paints - only acrylic.
I've not been using any alcohol i've never had any problems with the pigments binding with my gum arabic solution - whats the purpose of it?
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Old 06-24-2019, 02:44 PM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

Just read your info on the other thread - very handy, thank you!
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:53 AM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

I use intuition to decide when its enough. Usually I mix with a palette knife until its all one blob, then I spritz with a few sprays of water and switch with mulling,
the water thins it down enough to make it easier to mull and then evaporates.
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:02 AM
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Re: Making my own watercolour paint - mulling HELP!

I've just started mulling my own paints in the last few months too. A tip I picked up via a couple of Youtube videos to check if it had been mulled completely was to swatch a sample, let it dry (you can cheat and use a dryer) and then rub it with dry paper towel. Properly mulled paint won't lift onto the paper at all. If you have any colour transfer, then you need to mull the paint a bit longer, or potentially add a little more binder.

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