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Old 05-16-2018, 08:30 AM
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Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

Coming from a watercolor background, all i can say is oil is so relaxing , specially outdoors. No hurry at all.

My struggle with oil as medium continues though. I am finding problem in colour mixing and producing clean edges. I have only bristle hair brushes , do i need soft bristle brushes as well ? Can you suggest any good soft bristle brushes for oils(preferably synthetic) ?
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

I have no experience with pleine aire' painting, but I can recommend some nice brushes. Try obtaining some synthetic, Taklon bristle brushes by Loew Cornell. They are soft, and I've used them for years.

Any brand of Taklon, or Golden Taklon brushes should serve you quite well.

A brush whose bristles are somewhat between the stiff, natural bristles, and soft, Taklon brushes would be Ruby Satin brushes by Silverbrush. They perform well. You can recognize them by their dark green handles.
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

Getting clean edges is less a matter of brush choice and more one of brush loading and paint application. There is a bit of the physical appearance difference of the strokes themselves, and why I use soft brushes for some things and bristle brushes for other things.

I strongly suggest reading Brushwork Essentials by Mark Christopher Weber, which taught me basically everything I know about how to load a brush and apply paint with it. The skills acquired from the book are transferrable to a number of media, and the mindset gained was invaluable. Also he touches on differences in brush types and provides examples showing how these "techniques" work.
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Newbie, but Attempted Plein Air Anyway. . .

“Soft” brushes hardly a prerequisite in decent oil work.
I’ve, in fact, had a number of quite decent painters/teachers
who placed little to no emphasis on the importance of pos-
sessin’ decent softs. They of the opine better to obtain those
results (or edges) with a standard brushes (bristle) - and
they certainly can be. . .
That stated, if ya desire a few softs, the best’re kolinsky -
although their cost certainly reflect that.
If ya can locate some decent synthetics which closely mim-
ic, though, go for it!!
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Fine Synthetics, though...

I've found the best synthetics are Spain's Escoda,
though.
When I can't swing for kolinsky, they come as
close as possible - The others too saccharine. . .
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

I also had a look at your "oil is driving me crazy" painting, which is much better. Plein air is difficult, especially in oils. Part of the problem is that many natural scenes are not very interesting in mass colors, but derive their interest from fine details that are too difficult to paint without much more expertise and/or time, or a large amount of artistic abstraction.

Soft brushes will not help. The other painting shows that you can handle oils for that kind of scene (urban, some abstraction).

It is my understanding that many famous painters of the Impressionist era, who are often depicted painting plein air (photos existed in those days), nevertheless finished their works in a studio.
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

Nice job going out plein airing!
Plein air is extremely difficult, takes hundreds of paintings to start wrapping your head around it. Just keep going out there. it will make you crazy but is completely worth it.
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

Good work on the contours and coloring of the main tree....makes it look alive.
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

I can really see the potential and you have some great advice from our members. Keep at it, and good luck.
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Re: Newbie , but attempted plein air anyway...

Plein air is tough, in any media! Therefore I think you have done really well to produce such a lively colourful painting. I think using softer brushes will not necessarily help you obtain clean edges. Using the paint a little more fluid with more medium might help and try not to blend across the edges. Be bold with your mark making, like those marks you have painted on the ground behind the tree they just work beautifully.

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