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Would it be worth experimenting on a small scale?
It's possible it could be the best of both worlds. In practice I have trouble with it because of the color shift of matte to glossy. As far as an acurate drawing though I don't think it can be beat.
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@rafless, gigalot and whoever else feels the need to voice their opinions please go to another thread http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...photore alismThanks again
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Eventually, one day acrylic painters will be looking down their noses at oil painters. And not the other way around

very doubtful , it is the arts , and amounts to saying one day body poppers will look down on ballet dancers ... all the old masters painted in oils and that will always be the draw and the interest ,, there will never be any denying there are terrific works in acrylics ,, but take over oils ,,, satan will ice skate first ..
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Have you tried Golden Open? The extended open time might be just what you need
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Have you tried Golden Open? The extended open time might be just what you need
Well lets leave off the acrylics while were in the oil forums. We don't want people turning up the nose.

But yea I think they shift color for about 3 days.,
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Ellis

Scott Waddell videos are worth considering, have a look at the 2 or 3 minute trailers.

https://scottwaddellfineart.com/
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It's nice work but it didn't seem like top level photo realism to me.
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Re: Photorealism with Oil

Ellis: this is one of my professor's paintings (NYU).
Yes she loved to paint........garbage, and quite well in oils. She was one of the best profs ever. Open to all our ideas and styles. Check out the little stones on the garbage vessel.
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Thats awsome! Definitely top level photorealism. I bet that trash shines like a diamond in person.
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The only way I've done "photorealism" is if I take detailed photos of the object or person. Usually, in my case, it's a commission to paint children from their fathers or mothers ideal, so, if this is where you want to go with your art, the buyers really love it.

To me, when it looks like a photo but still has some vibrancy, it's perfect.
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Well, since acrylics have been brought up, there is an acrylic photorealist who put out a book, James Van Patten:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/03...t_bibl_vppi_i0
He takes numerous photos, blows them up, and copies them in 4" square areas at a time on pretty good-sized canvases. He pretty much completes each little square before moving on to the next one. I can't even imagine the boredom.

OTOH, I saw a German photorealist take a normal size photo of his son and without using any projectors or tracing or anything of that sort, painted a very large closeup of his face and shoulders. Freehand. Was on youtube.

Re pores, some Rembrandt paintings have pores. In fact, I read a discussion of how he did it.
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@Ellis, thanks for starting this thread. I'm also interested in finding instructions on how to paint photorealism.
@Derek, that is one of the most amazing painting I've ever seen. I wonder if before painting those little stones is it necessary to draw them exactly as they are in the reference-photo.
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Re: Photorealism with Oil

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Did you see this guy's work?

But, isn't this sort of thing impossible without really good photographic references?

And, if you have those, why aren't those, in and of themselves, "enough"?



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I personally feel that the color saturation is pushed a bit higher than reality might be, but otherwise several of his work show you exactly the same process. Color match the next stroke exactly, place it properly, repeat, and be sure to control edges very carefully to avoid impastos that might detract from the realistic representation.
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Ellis: this is one of my professor's paintings (NYU).
Yes she loved to paint........garbage, and quite well in oils. She was one of the best profs ever. Open to all our ideas and styles. Check out the little stones on the garbage vessel.
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I can appreciate the time, and attention to detail, that this requires.

But, I still have to ask, why?
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Please don't turn this thread into you trying to force your opinions on everyone else who is here to learn. There are a million other threads on "why". Go find one.
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