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Old 05-17-2012, 07:43 AM
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Inking trouble caused by skin oil

I finally realized that a frequent problem I encounter is caused directly by me.

Often, when I’m working on an ink drawing, I notice that there is a spot (or multiple spots) on the paper where the pen skips, or the ink beads up oddly. It’s quite annoying having areas where the paper doesn’t take the ink as well, and I have to keep working over the area to get it looking right.

The problem is most troublesome with dip-pens, but it’s also somewhat noticeable with the Pigma Micron pens I use.

I noticed these areas were primarily around the edges of the paper, but they sometimes cropped up in the middle of the page.

For a long time I suspected that oil from my skin was the problem, and that it was occurring in spots where I had touched the paper. But I mostly kept my hand resting on scrap paper while drawing so I wouldn’t smudge anything, so I wasn’t convinced that was the problem. Also, it wasn’t pervasive or serious enough for me to put a lot of serious thought into. Finally, though, on my last drawing, I ran into a few annoying spots, and decided I needed to figure out what was happening.

So I performed a very simple, obvious experiment that I should have done a long time ago: I lightly touched a spot on the edge of my paper, then started drawing around it. Result: There was poor inking in a small oval area that defined quite clearly the area I had touched with my fingertip.

So, it appears to me that at least with smooth-surfaced paper, pretty much any spot that comes into contact with my skin won’t take ink like it should. I’ve resolved to be extra-careful from now on not to touch the paper.

It’s not like before I was pressing on the page or laying my face down on it…I was only lightly brushing away grit, or letting the bottom of my palm touch when I wasn’t vigilant enough about sliding around my scrap paper shield. I just never realized that even a very light touch could cause me trouble!

Did everyone else already know this? Is everyone else reading this and saying, “Duh, glad you’re finally catching on!”? Or am I just an especially oily character? (I wash my hands frequently, I swear!)

Edited to add: It’s not like I didn’t know that skin always, always has oil on it; and that oil always repels water. I think I had just, for some reason, had never consciously considered and accepted that very light handling from my hands was still enough to cause a very noticeable problem.

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Old 05-17-2012, 05:52 PM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

I think that's actually an issue with the specific type of paper you're using because I've never had any "oil" problems like that before. I never used paper though... always illustration board. The only issue I've ever had was my arm sweating and having to deal with being careful not to get sweat on my board. My solution (which may be a good solution for you as well) is to lay a small hand towel across the drawing where my hand and arm can lay on it. It prevents perspiration (and oil) from getting on whatever substrate you are using. Plus it's a bit more comfortable than laying your arm on the table
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:21 AM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

I've used photographers gloves (white cotton archival) if I had to protect the working surface from my hands. Your hands do have oils on them even after washing your hands - perhaps some worse than others. Paper, texture, ink can all affect it.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

Hi, Bluegill. I've only done 3 pen and ink drawings so far. I use a dip pen and Microns also. I read somewhere in this forum that oil from skin could cause a problem, so I stitched up a pad from 100% cotton fabric that is long enough to rest my penning forearm and the butt of my penning hand on while working. On the other hand that may or may not be resting on the paper,and which I use to turn the paper when necessary, I wear a 100% cotton glove. To get rid of eraser dust, I use either a soft bristle, small paint brush or a can of compressed air to blow them away. Hope this helps with some ideas.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:38 AM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

Hi.......I've experienced this with many different pens. The other night, I even got tired of having dry hands, so I put lotion on my hands, then tried to wipe it off before I layed my hand on the paper to do inking, thinking, "this probably isn't a good idea!!!" But I did it anyway.
I have visions of parts of my paper looking old in places and discolored.....lol

I do know better....sometimes I just wanna think I can get by with it! hah!
I'm so glad you talked about this! I really needed to hear it from someone besides my own thinking! lol

Years ago, I also heard that it was common for men to have more oil in their hands. A framer told me, that it was common for men to wear the gloves more often when doing framing, so the art and mat don't show the oil.......later down the road!
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:46 AM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

I worked on a mural recently that was done with pens rather than paint. I had never done this and so was surprised to find all the artists anchored their hands while drawing with a napkin between hand and wall. This was at least in part about oil from hands.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:42 AM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

Thanks for the comments and suggestions!

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Hi, Bluegill. I've only done 3 pen and ink drawings so far. I use a dip pen and Microns also. I read somewhere in this forum that oil from skin could cause a problem, so I stitched up a pad from 100% cotton fabric that is long enough to rest my penning forearm and the butt of my penning hand on while working. On the other hand that may or may not be resting on the paper,and which I use to turn the paper when necessary, I wear a 100% cotton glove. To get rid of eraser dust, I use either a soft bristle, small paint brush or a can of compressed air to blow them away. Hope this helps with some ideas.

Wow, Leslie, you really go the extra linear foot. For now, I think I'll just stick with my piece of scrap printer paper, and just try to be more diligent about not letting my skin touch elsewhere.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:16 PM
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Re: Inking trouble caused by skin oil

Lol, Bluegill, you're right. I figure that my art needs all of the help that it can get, so I have to do a bit extra. The scrap paper that I tried using under my hand and forearm kept getting messed up by perspiration. The humidity is often high here, and I decided that those scraps of paper were not the answer, hence the cotton arm pad.
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