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Old 08-28-2015, 10:07 AM
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Does anyone know if watercolor paper works ok for acrylic? Or does it have to be gessoed to be useable?
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Yes. I have an old pad of 140# wc paper and I use it for practice. It is quite absorbent so buckles a bit even using paint right from the tub, but heavier weight paper, I've heard, works without buckling.

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Does anyone know if watercolor paper works ok for acrylic? Or does it have to be gessoed to be useable?
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Yup, it works fine for it. I usually do an undercoating anyway but it is useful to do with WC paper as it's so absorbent.

I personally like 300gsm wc paper but the actual acrylic paper that they sell is usually only 90gsm.
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Yup, it works fine for it. I usually do an undercoating anyway but it is useful to do with WC paper as it's so absorbent.

I personally like 300gsm wc paper but the actual acrylic paper that they sell is usually only 90gsm.

Virgina, is that undercoating gesso? Or something else?
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Thx Mike. I have 140lb too. Am going to use it for these exercises so I wanted to know what people thought.
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I just use regular acrylic usually black to paint the background. I like painting on darker or colored backgrounds.
When I first started painting after years of not painting, I was so tentative and never used enough paint so I tricked myself into stopping that bad habit by making the background so dark I had to use a lot of paint to cover it. I'm easy to trick.
Lately I've been liking a sienna/unbleached titanium mix on my backgrounds.
One artist that used to post on WC years ago often used red or orange.

Acrylics are so forgiving you could even use a watercolor wash and let it dry if you'd like.
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Thx Virginia for the advice. Much appreciated.
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Re: Book Review ~ "50 Small Paintings"

Did a few more exercises:

#7 - A good exercise in values


#8 - I don't like painting the main subject first and the background last. Just seems backwards to me. My box is a bit tall



#9 - I think the instructions are missing a few details about the color on the boat. I did a bit of burnt sienna mixed with some black to add the darker details and yellow ochre for the back of the boat.



#10 - Again, what is the point of painting the background last?



#11 - I may do this one again because my shoe is not shaped well. Also, felt the instructions didn't explain the shading of the shoe very well. This photograph doesn't show how red the shoe really is in my painting.



# 12 - really don't get the point of this exercise.
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I paint the background at various times, it all depends on the painting.

I like your boat!
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I am finding that with an opaque medium background colour I can use that to cut in and correct the shape of the object or focal point. So some times even though I have already done the background I use that colour to correct the shapes.
Besides, all this is just a learning exercise, I just do it and move on . If it means so little then I just miss it out, like I will the two abstracts - just not my cup of tea.
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I have managed another six but I struggled all the way. There was so much learning going on here what with acrylics, paint mixing and miniatures with brushes too big and paint too thick too apply I drew the cockeral and it looked awful so I traced it and it didn't look any better so I left it as was. Then when I tried to scan the six together it decided to only copy the first of the sequence - I could have screamed! These modern aids are not exactly user friendly. It is a new AIO.
The camera came to my assistance and I took a photo. The support was a discarded piece of mountcard 9.5" X 13.5", the images varied from 4" square to 3.5" X 4" (separated with masking tape aligned by eye )
I thought I could do better with the flowers but my mind and the paint disagreed.
I opted out of the spotty abstract. I do not like any of them really, the eggs are too white, the flowers too whatever...... the impressionist painting too much of impression.....yuk is all I can say .

Wednesday last, SWMBO fell in the kitchen and we spent the whole evening in A&E awaiting news...... No bone broken, thank the lucky stars . But she is feeling all battered and bruised today .
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Re: Book Review ~ "50 Small Paintings"

Glad to see you forging ahead. I should do it, also.

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Re: Book Review ~ "50 Small Paintings"

Whether I like a particular project or not I want to at least try it - I might learn something.

Here is 13 with a few twists. I stuck pretty much to the project colors except I don't have Cadmium Red Light, so I used my cad red medium. Worked on the clouds and gave them some detail. The dark under painting for the trees worked really well after adding some pthalo green.

Brush control, brush control, brush control! Barn looks more like a red shack than a barn. Tree line at bottom of background hills could be lighter. Silo seems a bit...funky. Is the foreground grass dark enough?



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Re: Book Review ~ "50 Small Paintings"

It looks as if the more distant grass has been mowed Mike. The foreground grass looks longer and tuftier. I like the silo in the 2nd one, a good idea and made it your own.
What brushes have you found to work? The Rosemary no 6 daggers and 1/4" swordliner arrived yesterday and although they were the best to date out of all that I have tried I think I will have to go to the kolinsky sable riggers ....or even smaller .
Having tried acrylics with miniatures I can see that I might try the same with larger versions. I can see what I thought was a joke - the one haired brush and magnifying glass . I have a headband magnifier some where...... now where is the scissors.
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I got my book today. I hope I'm not too late to join in.
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I got my book today. I hope I'm not too late to join in.
Of course not Mary and welcome to the thread and the book.
Just put them up as you finish them. All of this is new to me so I'll be watching with interest.
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