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Old 12-13-2009, 07:15 AM
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Paper to paint Gouache on

Hello everyone working in Gouache,
That is not so important, but of some interest to me, though: These have been done on very cheap typemachine paper.

No, sorry! No examples attached or even linked, it's impossible to upload them (?!?) (Help!... And I've posted pictures already in WetCanvas and all over the Web...)
One did come through, though, on my previous post "Trees in watery Gouache". It's not representative of real Gouache work (and overwork!...), but it's done on the cheapest paper possible and still white!

I find that most of the time Gouache works out much better and smoother on cheap paper or packaging cardboard than on high-class art paper. I might be the only one here, but I never find any advantage to paint Gouache on Watercolour paper. I'm always astonished that other artists do that. For me it never works. Basically the paper sucks up the pigments and the delightful creamy texture of Gouache deep down and leaves up the whity chalk on the surface of the artwork. And it slows down and hinders the brushwork awfully. I'm convinced that's the point where Cousin Gouache and Cousin Watercolour radically differ one from another. What do you think?
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:47 PM
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Re: Paper to paint Gouache on

Well, I can't endorse using cheap paper or cardboard for anything of value. I don't find that quality paper stock gives me a chalky appearance or are more absorbant than cheap stuff, just the opposite actually. What brands of watercolor paper are you using?
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:43 AM
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Re: Paper to paint Gouache on

Dear David, all kinds of very good Watercolour paper, coarse, matt, kid finish, very thick, thin, best cotton quality. And these for years.
Pretty good handling happens when working on pencil & ink line artboard like Strathmore 400 or 500 bristol matt. Like used by architects, industry draftsmen, cartoonists. Of course these don't suck up the colour inside at all. The drawback, they get quickly totally corrugated because they're just not made to bear a watery medium in high quantity.
Of course I'm aware that cheap type machine paper is not a very good solution at all, especially if you want your work to still be looked at in 150 years. And of course, they don't bear much watering or overworking either.
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Re: Paper to paint Gouache on

After a lot of experimenting with flat papers I think I've decided that I prefer the cold press watercolor paper, because I paint a lot in washes, even in gouache. I also mix gouache with watercolors and inks, and those more transparent media work much better IMO with the textured watercolor paper. I use Canson a lot, and Arches if for some reason I want the smoother hot press.

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