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Old 05-15-2001, 04:49 AM
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Post Dolphin Pair Jumping ~ Did I miss anything?

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This is from a previous post and is now finished (I think). Its a 36" X 40" oil on stretched canvas. I sure am gonna miss these two. They was really fun creating. After I stare at it a few days while it drys I can get a better look at it. Until then please make any suggestions you feel would be an improvement.

The only requirements was:
1.)a pair of dolphins
2.)the canvas size
3.)pastel colors
4.)Tropical look and feel
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Fairgrove:
I would have extended the island out but decided on white sand instead. I felt extending it out I would lose the height I wanted in the over all painting. But I did lights, fixed the water, and made the exit just a tad lower on both.

dteleis:

I didn't know about curling the tail down... but I think just adding the water falling makes it appear more downward. What do you think? I wish we were both there!

DonW:

Don't know if I covered everything but I'm sorta zoned out looking at it for now. I'll have to let it sit for a few days and look some more. How's it look to you now?

ZOTMA:

That's funny we were posting at the same time. Well, I'm done now I think. Good? Bad? suggestions?
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:08 AM
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You have indeed nailed the requirements!
Very nice tropical feel! I like it a lot.

It´s a pretty big piece (wish I could afford to paint that size) and it would be nice to see some detail postings.

I totally agree on you with the island on the right. That beach enhances the background in a wonderful way.

The water is nice, I love the colour, but it's not as spectacular as in your other dolphin paintings.

I think my favourite part in this piece is the left dolphin. Very resilient pose. Also very good rendering.

I must say I agree with DonW who mentioned the feeling that the dolphins are about to beach themself (I feel like I'm standing in a bay, where the island in the right is actually the end of the same bay), but don't go and change that.
As you said Tess, you wanted the hight, to make the piece fit on a special wall. I trust you that it will!

I must add that I think your sky is great. Very nice thin clouds and light.

If I should complain, maybe the composition is a bit too symetric.

Well, I like this one and you get six trees!

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Old 05-15-2001, 11:20 AM
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I like it Tess - something bothered me about your original post but I couldn't put my finger on it so I didn't reply. You've fixed whatever it was.

RE: Your new tinyhead - Cool! You should try some sunblock though
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Hi Tess, Excellent peice and I am sure your client will be pleased. If I had to suggest any improvements I have a couple small ones.
The biggest problem I have is the horizon line. I feel a slope from left to right.
The other small suggestion would be maybe to add a small hint of droplets from their front fins and possibly off the dorsals as well.
Anyway I have really enjoyed viewing, thanks for posting.................Bill
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The water looks much better now with a greater feeling of depth and the light on the right dolphin is great!

Your exit places are placed really well also with the light on the dolphins.

I really like the glint of light on the head of the left one!
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:50 PM
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Hi Tess, I just ment that the horizon line looks like it slopes from the viewers left to the right. In otherwords the horizon line on the left seems to be a little higher. It could be your crop but just thought you might want to check it. If it is off it will certainly hert the painting once it is hung. (it could look crooked even if the painting was hung level). Sorry I wasn't clear....Bill
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Old 05-15-2001, 03:23 PM
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Nice job, looks great. The wave area has lots of depth. Recommendations? Go get your money, girl. They are going to be very pleased with this.
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Was just watching to see where the water would spout.
You made the perfect choice.
I have loved looking at your stuff and there is some real joy I get looking at these happy sea creatures.
From here on I would just ask the patron and KNOW it is a good piece, but there is no accounting for the color of a sofa, if you know what I mean.
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Terrific! The client is very lucky to get this pair... I still would like to see more white in the trails of water and scattered on the water surface... I see a lot of control here [and miss some of the excitement of earlier swimmer under water...]

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Wow, I love it. Tropics are wonderful.

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I just posted some large detail images on my website for those interested (Fairgrove). Here is the direct link for this painting.
http://users.ticnet.com/tess2000/pri...olphinduo.html

Fairgrove:

Thanks! Glad to see you like it. I have some pretty weird painting techniques but hopefully those will improve as I go. Still in the learning process but WC has helped me tremendously.

I don't really know what you mean by "too symetrical". Maybe you could explain that better for me. Remember... I don't know these artistic terms and stuff so visual examples are a huge help. I'm still pretty stupid in the art world. I just paint stuff.

Dang....only six trees. One of these days I'm going to blow your mind!


Jimbo68:

HI!! How's your drawing coming along? Somehow I knew you didn't like the first post. Glad I fixed it and also glad you like it.

I need to get Franklin some cheap sunglasses huh?

Waves:

GREAT websiTE! Cool paintings too! Thank you for your comments and I do agree there should be some more droplets. I want to let it dry a bit before I add more. I will probably add those on later before my client comes for a view. Also do you mean slant from the island direction down? Just a little confused as in if you mean viewers left to right or real left to right. Also...just out of curiosity. Why the slant? What does that do?

DonW:

Glad you like the rework. Without all the suggestions It wouldn't have looked like this for sure.

I have some underwater images coming from hawaii soon and hope I can get some more marine life images and ideas, They are of reef fish and underwater caves and stuff. I met a diver online that has agreed to send me some photos in exchange for a painting. Can't wait to get those.

Thanks Again for your help!
Tess

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Thanks for the details, I really enjoy looking at your work. I wish I could see it in real life some time.

As for weird painting techniques, they are really working! I am very new at this and probably the least experienced member in the whole WetCanvas community. I never used to draw when I was young and I got my first beginners set of oils as a gift just a few months ago. "What do I do with this paint?", was my question and I turned to the Internet. The first thing I found was this place and now I'm stuck. I am yet to finish my first painting, but it will be posted here before it's dry.

What I was going to say is that "artistic terms" is not my strenght. I just try to put words to what I see. Since English is not my first lanuage, I sometimes have trouble finding the right words and I´m glad that you tell me when you don't understand.

"Too symetric" was the expression. I think the both dolphins are jumping in a similar way. The water dripping off them makes two almost identical diagonals. If it wasn't for the different poses of the dolphins it would look like you just had copied the first one to add one more. There is really nothing wrong in symetric, but I kind of more liked the composition in your other painting of the two dolphins jumping in different directions. It captured me more. Now there is a flow in the painting, in the direction that they are jumping. My eyes follow that flow and "whoops" I'm out of the painting, on the right side outside of the frame. I can't see the place where the dolphins are heading.
Well, there is really nothing wrong in this, just a thought. (sometimes, quite often, dolphins jump in the same direction)
I'm looking forward to more underwater scenes from you Tess! By the way, six trees is very high on my scale.

As for being stupid in the art world, I consider it to be my and everyone elses given right to be pretty stupid in the art world and just paint stuff! It's not how the painting was made, it's how it looks on the wall that matters in my eyes.

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You've captured the luminosity it needed and the delicate sea spray.

Mich

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Hi Tess,

I think you did a very nice job!

It is hard to compose a square painting, but you pulled it off.

(I don't hand out art compliments lightly.)

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Hi Tess, I just ment that the horizon line looks like it slopes from the viewers left to the right.

Dear Bill (Waves),

OHhhHH... I thought you meant I should slant it. ha! It is straight as possible. Since I haven't ever been able to draw/paint a straight line I have to use a ruler or tape it off after measuring. Maybe one of these days I'll master that. Until then I still have to play carpenter with the sea level.

Thanks for your help just the same.
Tess

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