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View Poll Results: Line & Wash as an Art Form
In the art world, L&W is respected as an art form in its own right 12 27.91%
L&W is largely respected as a means for field / design study rather than a stand alone art form 7 16.28%
L&W is not repected in its own right 3 6.98%
Personally, I see L&W as an art form, not just for studies 36 83.72%
Personally, I do not think L&W is an independent art form 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-20-2007, 08:54 AM
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Judi,
Do you think it is the "general public" who doesn't respect it or the "art establishment gurus" who run Galleries (and who think garbage can refuse strewn about and given a catchy title by some modern "artist" is avant guarde)?

When I read about some of the things that win art awards these days, I would trust the general public's opinion better than the trend setters—but they often don't get the chance to see this type of art that we see here every day.

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L&W is definitely an art form and hopefully it will become more respected because I LOVE this particular form of art.

Thanks Jen for the voting poll;interesting....
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Re: Value of Line & Wash

Given that I've been reading a great deal of kids books over the past couple of years (and now look over Raffi's shoulder as he reads to himself!) I am amazed at the amount of art in children's books that is line and wash. (And there's a great deal of it that's "pure" watercolour too!)

So, I'd have to vote that it's an artform of and by itself. Is it highly regarded by the "art world"? By artists, yes, since I think we all acknowledge the skill it takes. By gallery owners who sell stuff for a living and by people who buy it--hmm, seems NOT.

MHO, anyways...
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Hmmm...Real Art? Get yourself a wash drawing by Rembrandt or Carravagio and see what it sells for...
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Re: Value of Line & Wash

I love it the soft wash and the stronger accent lines that come with the ink. It can be a doodle, a quick card to a friend, or a finished piece suitable for framing That's about all I can ask of my medium!
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Re: Value of Line & Wash

I'm the member that spurred the question, and I appreciate Jen posing the question and the well-considered poll. I, for one, love L&W because of the way it looks when done freely and well. Admittedly I also love it because I have some degree of faculty with the form (I can't say the same for my "pure" watercolors but I'm working on it). I have still never seen anything quite as exciting as really well-done L&W.

I'll close by including a few examples of Edward Wesson, a modern master of the form, and my current watercolor idol. If these ain't art, I don't know what is .


Charing, Kent by Edward Wesson



Great Wishford near Salisbury by Edward Wesson


Windsor Castle by Edward Wesson
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One of my favourites too Mike. he always captured the light so well.

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I'm with you Mike and Doug. I have been collecting on-line L&W's of Wesson. Seago and J. Fletcher Watson, also did L&W quite well. It's a great English form of art that has spread throughout the world. Robert Wade in his Watercolour Workshop book gives a page to it, but thinks it should be tried more here in the States. A book was published four years ago by International Artists on L&W entitled, "Work Small, Learn Big! Sketching With Pen & Watercolor." Most of the artist think of it as a learning tool or as a preliminary sketching device, but a few think of it as an art form on it's own. Robert Jennings from Devon published a small book entitled simply "Pen and Wash." A subtitle is "Learn to create beautiful pictures." All great books. Yes! It's definetly an art form, and a very old one, indeed.
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Thanks, Mike...that's the stuff. If I may ask, what was your source for those Wesson images? By any chance from a book we can lay our hands on? I have Ron Ranson's book and it only made me hungry for more
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There is a new book out on the works of Edward Wesson, I'll look for a link.

Here it is.


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Thanks,Doug...I hadn't seen the Steve Hall and Barry Miles books before. A little after Christmas shopping may be in order.
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Beautiful reminders, seeing the Wessons, that good composition, light, interesting subjects is what "art" is and should be about. Interesting thought about gallery owners and what they perceive the public will buy. Any of you ever get into this topic with those you know?

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Re: Value of Line & Wash

Urban sketching is taking off huge and line and wash is very popular with that.

Charley on Doodlewash works primarily in line and wash.

If people buy it, it's an art form. Probably a lot more than some of the stuff people buy.
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Wesson is my hero! His line & wash pictures are super. Not only could he paint so economically and deftly but his drawing skills were outstanding.

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