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Old 03-16-2019, 03:11 PM
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**WC Back-up sites**

Under the shadow of the bankruptcy filing by F+W...
If you have a facebook page or other alternative for a back-up meeting place should WetCanvas be inaccessible, please place the link and a short description in this thread.
We will not need those options.
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Old 03-16-2019, 03:48 PM
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Thanks for creating this thread, Jon.

I started a subreddit on Reddit here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WetCanvasTalk/

It's there mostly as a short-term place to use for anyone from the WC Community if WC should disappear. It's not meant as a backup site, or an alternative to WC; it's just that having been sideswiped a couple of times by other people's bankruptcies I've found it's useful to be prepared. I've spent the last 50 years in harsh climates, and I really bless the modern weather forecasters for being able to now provide significant advance warning of impending storms. They mostly don't actually happen, but at least I'm well stocked up on potato chips


A lot of people aren't all that familiar with Reddit (and neither am I, unfortunately ), so WC folks should feel free to use it as a practice area as well.

New users do need to create a user name and supply an email address to use Reddit, but as far as I can tell, the email address doesn't get verified. So if users are worried about that, they can just make one up. But generally Reddit has pretty good security, and (unlike Facebook) doesn't promote providing personal information to them.

The basic rules of Reddiquette (how to behave on Reddit) are here:

https://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette

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Originally Posted by ZanBarrage
I hear you all and totally understand the Facebook reluctance. As I said before I have used the MyBB program before. That is the same one that WC is built on. Please go here and use the forum as a sandbox to see if you like it. I am willing to host the group there temporarily with the idea that we can build a new one together as a GROUP OWNERSHIP no corporate ownership platform. That may mean a few dollars though to own the site, host it and maintain it. Depending on the number of people joining it could be as low as $1.00 a year (not trying to make money off of this. I can share cost billing and we can all pitch in and cover). What do you say?

First as I said, check out the sandbox that I opened up for you on my student's forum.
http://www.zanbarrage.com/Workshopfo...lay.php?fid=21
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Old 03-16-2019, 04:22 PM
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Re: ******WC Back-up sites******

I've contacted Dick Blick, Jackson's Art, and Doodlewash to see if any of them would be willing or able to take over the site.

Here is Jackson's reply:

Dear Susan,

This is very sad news. We're are very much fans of WetCanvas. I personally find it very useful looking for advice when stuck in the studio.

I have passed your email to our the Director who I'm sure will consider all options.

Kind regards,

Joe


Here is Doodlewash's reply:

Hey there, Susan! Wow… yeah… just saw that news.Ugh! Not good! Though I had worked with Watercolor Artist Magazine, that was the extent of my contact with anyone associated. I don’t have any contacts with WetCanvas, so I’m not sure who currently is in control of that content. I don’t think I could merge the existing content very easily, and would certainly need someone on their end to approve it. But, I would certainly welcome any and all from the community over to Doodlewash and would do anything I could to set up the same Forums there. It would be starting from scratch most likely, but Doodlewash is a community-driven project where the members decide what happens next, so it’s definitely an option! I’m not sure what they’ll do with their assets, based on the bankruptcy. I would imagine someone would come in to purchase them, but equally not sure what sort of community would result in that. I could easily create matching forums on Doodlewash and welcome any and all, but again… it would likely have to be a from scratch, community-driven effort to restart it. 😊
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Thanks for creating this thread, Jon.

I started a subreddit on Reddit here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WetCanvasTalk/

It's there mostly as a short-term place to use for anyone from the WC Community if WC should disappear. It's not meant as a backup site, or an alternative to WC; it's just that having been sideswiped a couple of times by other people's bankruptcies I've found it's useful to be prepared. I've spent the last 50 years in harsh climates, and I really bless the modern weather forecasters for being able to now provide significant advance warning of impending storms. They mostly don't actually happen, but at least I'm well stocked up on potato chips


A lot of people aren't all that familiar with Reddit (and neither am I, unfortunately ), so WC folks should feel free to use it as a practice area as well.

New users do need to create a user name and supply an email address to use Reddit, but as far as I can tell, the email address doesn't get verified. So if users are worried about that, they can just make one up. But generally Reddit has pretty good security, and (unlike Facebook) doesn't promote providing personal information to them.

The basic rules of Reddiquette (how to behave on Reddit) are here:

https://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette

Cheers;
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Hey, Chris, I was just about to start a WC subreddit but you beat me to it! Thanks! I've used reddit for a long time, but honestly don't know all that much about a lot of its functions. I do know that people can post images using imgur, and I think there's a reddit image uploader now. As you mention, it's easy to sign up. You do need an email, and while it may be possible not to have that email verified, as I understand it the powers that be do prefer verification. You must have made yourself a mod, which means you are an exalted overlord...no, just kidding. It just means you'll watch over the subreddit and are there to solve any problems that might arise. It probably isn't a permanent solution should WC disappear, but I think it can be a good temporary place to keep in contact.
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Has anyone contacted Cheap Joe's? Joe is not only an entrepreneur but also very dedicated to the world of art.
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Artist & Craftsman might be another good idea. They have a website but also bricks and mortar stores throughout the U.S. And, they're employee owned, which is a plus in my view.

Or perhaps some university or art school might be interested, although I think that's probably less likely, and might create other problems.

Who is it that owns/manages The Color of Art Pigment Database? That's a long shot, I suppose, but it couldn't hurt to try if nothing else pans out.

It occurs to me that it might be a good idea first to determine if WC really could be run primarily by a volunteer staff of users. That might make quite a difference to various entities who might be approached about a purchase. Not having much overhead probably would be more desirable.

The Zan Barrage link didn't work for me...
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WOW. The potential shutdown is news to me. I have a number of friends I have come to enjoy here, that along with sharing the wonderful works of others. I will certainly share my contact information with those of you I have come to know.

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Thanks for all this information I'm hoping Dick Blick will buy the site.

Here is a link to Painting Friends that you'll need a user name and PW for as well. Several WetCanvas artists started it and are still active and we did chip in money several years ago to get it where it is now. It's a friendly bunch

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Hey, Jon, I have to apologize, since I think I went off on a tangent of possible buyers for WC, when you may have been looking only for a temporary landing spot for us, in the case one might be needed.

Kay, is your group site able to handle all the traffic it might get if it too many WCers decide to join? I don't know how many active users WC has at this point, but given all the different forums, it may be quite a large number. I'm completely unwilling to use Facebook because of it's lack-of-privacy issues and selling of user data. That's why I think the reddit subform that Chris set up (link above) is a good idea, since there wouldn't be any bandwidth worries, and it's easy to join and use.
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Hi Jon,

Thanks so much for the new link as the first didn't work for me either.

Just want to say that as someone who's technically "poor" and living on a pension, I would still be very happy to pay a regular subscription to keep us all together, if that becomes necessary, as of all the various interest-led forums I've been on over the last twenty years or more, this is the only one that meets my every need, and is now the only one I post to...and besides, the people here are surpassing wonderful in so many ways!

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Hi Kay, I'm with you all the way, especially with the Blick thing. They've saved me a fortune over the years, buying artstuffs from them, even with the overseas shipping charges!

Have also registered with "Watercolor Workshops" and registration is pending at "Painting Friends". You only had to mention that "several WC artists started it" for me to think that some of those I lost contact with all those years ago (when I fell so very ill for so long) might be there

Will continue at WC as long as I can, of course, but it's so good to have two alternatives, and now I can start to subside!

Now I've got to get back to making that blasted carrot cake!

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Thanks for all this information I'm hoping Dick Blick will buy the site.

Here is a link to Painting Friends that you'll need a user name and PW for as well. Several WetCanvas artists started it and are still active and we did chip in money several years ago to get it where it is now. It's a friendly bunch

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Thanks for the link to Painting Friends and I've applied to join. I do hope W.C. will be saved. The Doodlewash reply sound good.
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