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Old 06-09-2019, 01:25 PM
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Thank you Terri and Mira.
I have an onstanding decision to obstain from buying any more art supplies on general and oil pastels in particular, thinking I have more than enough (I'd estimate I own a little over 300 sticks). However, reading posts the past few days has got my palms itchy, and I have a feeling I might fall off the wagon soon.


Ha ha ha!! I know the feeling well! All of these great reviews, insights and feedback from my fellow OP artists makes it hard to pull back.

I've developed an interest in those artist-grade van Goghs, as well as the Erengis. I have some 9x12 Pastelmat and would likely give the sticks a chance to shine their best using that paper. IF I go for it, which I might over the summer.
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There are artist quality Van Goghs?! You're killing me..... I was always sure they were student grade.....
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There are artist quality Van Goghs?! You're killing me..... I was always sure they were student grade.....
I'd always read they were student quality too and had only decided to give them a punt because they have really nice greys. They are definitely artist grade

I don't know who made the arbitrary decision to classify them as student grade using what criteria, but it's definitely incorrect. Van Gogh lists the pigment used and the lightfastness rating, that's enough to make them artist quality. On top of that, they are really nice to use; very similar to Cray-Pas Specialists in texture, which are my favourite.
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Re: Wondering which brand to choose?

It sure would be nice if there was some uniformity in grading oil pastels. Most of us love our Mungyo Gallery Soft, too, but they seem to glide along with no info on pigment/lightfastness, nothing to tell us they are artist grade beyond our own experiences in working with them.

I've also read that there is no uniform measure in artist paint brushes, too - a #2 size from one manufacturer might be somewhat larger or smaller than a #2 from someone else. Seems needlessly confusing.
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Well, I did it....
I bought a set of mungyo oil pastels.... Hope they're worth it. Let's call it an early 40th birthday present
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Well, I did it....
I bought a set of mungyo oil pastels.... Hope they're worth it. Let's call it an early 40th birthday present

Were they the pro ones, Mungyo Gallery Artists' (Extra) Soft Oil Pastels?
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Of course they were. We get the cheap ones here, so I bought one and they are horrible
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I bought a set of mungyo oil pastels.... Hope they're worth it. Let's call it an early 40th birthday present

Happy Early Birthday! I'm excited for you, as I think you're going to appreciate them and really come to like them. They work beautifully with Neopastels (the Neos glide over them) and they glide beautifully over cheaper OP's like Cray-Pas Expressionists.

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Thanks! Can't wait
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I'll be interested in your opinion of them. I think you're also a fan of Neopastels, and these are a close second to them. For the money, you get a lot.

FYI, they play better on some papers than others. I've always struggled more with them on my watercolor sketchpad, for me they don't blend as well.
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I'll be interested in your opinion of them. I think you're also a fan of Neopastels, and these are a close second to them. For the money, you get a lot.

FYI, they play better on some papers than others. I've always struggled more with them on my watercolor sketchpad, for me they don't blend as well.


Interesting... I shall see. I don't like aquarelle paper anyway, so that's not a great loss. I hope they work well on my Daler-Rowney black sketchpad. I will post my opinion with photos to show them off once I get them.

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Re: Wondering which brand to choose?

Great information!
I only started using oil pastels a couple of years ago. I totally hated them for a really long time. I hated getting them on my hands. Lol
But now I use mainly Cray-pas expressionist, but I also use Erengi and Mungyo Artists and I have Senniliers too.
I see all of you talking about multiple layers. I pretty much have never successfully done more than two layers.
What happens is it either turns to mud mixture color or gets little balls of color.
Are you guys/gals using like turpentine or something between the layers?
For me it's a fun medium, I try to keep my hands clean still though, it's less clean up than oil paints of acrylic paint and it's got a great tactile sensation which is better than markers or water color.
What do you all do for a sealer coating? I've gone the cheap route and been using Rustoleum clear. ( I know, I should be banned! Lol)
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Hi Bobbi Ross! OP's definitely take some getting used to, don't they? I started with the CP Expressionist pretty exclusively, then added the Mungyo Artist Gallery, some Senns and more recently several Neopastels.

The thing about layers is just to start off with the hardest OP you have. Do an underpainting or your sketch with your Expressionists (unless the Erengi are harder, I'm not familiar with them). Then you might go over that layer with the same or similar colors from a slightly softer brand before trying to blend or move the OP around. The "little balls of color" you mention are probably from your harder OPs, and they have more wax/less pigment so can crumble like that if you try to layer the harder OP over the softer OP. "Fat over lean" is something I've read that oil painters refer to, but it's the same concept. Your Senns shouldn't come out until you're about done, and they glide over anything for a terrific top layer or highlights.

I also recommend Turpenoid, which is turpentine that has been refined for artist's use. You can do a bottom layer with a very hard OP, then use an artist brush to sweep and blend the OP that way. When it dries you have a nice hard bottom layer of OP that is easily built on.

You can also spray a workable fixative between layers, if you start to lose "tooth" and want to keep going. Krylon or the Senns fixative are both great. But the point is, there are several ways to get some layers going, and then you build up this delicious, pliable coating of OP that is so much fun to work with!

I quit using any kind of top coat or sealer long ago. I think we have another thread discussing the pros and cons of that around here somewhere!

Hope this helps.
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