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    edmund ronald
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        I have some sellers in Paris who are willing to try to sell my paintings to tourists, but I need to rationalize the process.

        I’m thinking of replicating the fineliner outline drawing of my sketches onto decent paper with a copier, and then coloring with watercolor on top so that everyone gets an original albeit a multiple in some sense. Has anyone here faced the same problem?

        If so, what paper and printer/copier are you using? Do you copy just the outline or the whole original watercolor?

        Edmund

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        I do not reproduce my artwork like that. I only sell originals. I am a fast painter/drawer. :)

        Good luck with your venture Ronald.

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        Hire a team of professional counterfeiters to crank them out. Locate them in prisons, pay a pittance, reap the profits!

        Having prints of the original art is usually how it’s done. Is there something about prints that is unacceptable to sell to tourists? Does the seller only want originals?

        Unless the tourist is also a serious art collector I doubt many would be like, “I love this painting and it will remind me of my trip here the rest of my life, but it’s not the original so I’ll have to pass.”

        Printing repro tech has come a long way frome the time I worked as a pressman in the print industry (not reproducing fine art)….but even then amazing prints were being made on all kinds of materials. Even more so now.

        My advice is to contact several reputable fine art print service specialists to talk and browse examples of their work. They can tell you what is currently possible and available options.

        Awesome opportunity for you! Best of success to you going forward.

        Earth without art is just "eh".

        #941828
        Bill
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            Edmund, when I reproduce my Christmas cards, I use 90 lb. paper. It passes through the printer easily. I have printed out some ink drawings and colored them lightly with water colours. The ink does not run. A friend of mine printed out fifty ink outlines of a lighthouse and painted them. Each an original. Good luck.
            Bill

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            #941841
            calvin_0
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                I suggest to draw and paint each individually, even if the outline is the same, because it’s done in watercolor, nobody is getting the same painting anyway.. so might as well draw each one out to maximize the uniqueness of each painting rather than minimizing it.

                if you want to sell the same thing to everyone, you’ll need to make print of your painting..

                #941838
                RedcarUK
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                    Edmund, when I reproduce my Christmas cards, I use 90 lb. paper. It passes through the printer easily. I have printed out some ink drawings and colored them lightly with water colours. The ink does not run. A friend of mine printed out fifty ink outlines of a lighthouse and painted them. Each an original. Good luck.
                    Bill

                    Could you tell us what paper you use please Bill? I haven’t found anything suitable for my Christmas cards. :(

                    #941835
                    oldey
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                        A printer would work with the outline set to dots not lines. Also a light box or projector could be used to make multiples of the outlines easily.

                        #941827
                        Pesto126
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                            I do what other above suggest… make an original, scan at very high dpi, make prints using printer on good quality paper.

                            Most folks are happy to buy the copies – they can be sold for MUCH less, I can spend my time making new art and everyone is happy!

                            #941829
                            virgil carter
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                                Giclee prints from an experienced and properly equipped printer. Add a certificate of authenticity if you wish.

                                Sling paint,
                                Virgil

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                                #941831

                                What exactly does the word “giclée” mean?

                                Obviously, in the simplest sense, it’s some sort of copying and printing process. Google’s dictionary says “a technology for fine art or photograph reproduction using a high-quality inkjet printer to make individual copies” and “a print produced using the giclee process.” I further infer, that doing giclee instead of merely photographing and printing, or instead of merely photocopying, means that it’s OK to sell a technologically produced copy of your art as though it’s a very nice copy done by an artist, rather than a really cruddy copy done by Kinko’s or the like.

                                So I’m getting the impression that “giclée” actually means, “I don’t know how it works but it’s fancier than usual so you should pay me more than you usually would.” Kind of like how “plein air” means “outdoors, but French-ified, because we’re not just hikers, we’re artists”; similarly, “giclée” means “photocopy, but French-ified, because we’re not just librarians, we’re artists.”

                                Does anyone know the real technicalities behind the giclée process? What in fact makes it more high-fidelity and better than other processes?

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                                #941836
                                edmund ronald
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                                    I guess giclée means something like jet of liquid in french, and the verb gicler is sometimes used in french erotic literature. I assume there is a similar verb in english but it is not used for describing a print process, leaving us with the more neutral “inkjet”

                                    :)

                                    In art this word was used in the US to designate IRIS prints made on fine art paper, but I guess now applies to any inkjet process supervised by the artist.

                                    You can look up the IRIS, as I understand it worked using a continuous ink flow tech which has now been deprecated for cheaper and more reliable dot=based inkjets.

                                    Edmund

                                    What exactly does the word “[I]giclée[/I]” mean?

                                    Obviously, in the simplest sense, it’s some sort of copying and printing process. Google’s dictionary says “a technology for fine art or photograph reproduction using a high-quality inkjet printer to make individual copies” and “a print produced using the giclee process.” I further infer, that doing giclee instead of merely photographing and printing, or instead of merely photocopying, means that it’s OK to sell a technologically produced copy of your art as though it’s a very nice copy done by an artist, rather than a really cruddy copy done by Kinko’s or the like.

                                    So I’m getting the impression that “[I]giclée[/I]” actually means, “I don’t know how it works but it’s fancier than usual so you should pay me more than you usually would.” Kind of like how “[I]plein air[/I]” means “outdoors, but French-ified, because we’re not just hikers, we’re artists”; similarly, “[I]giclée[/I]” means “photocopy, but French-ified, because we’re not just librarians, we’re artists.”

                                    Does anyone know the real technicalities behind the [I]giclée [/I]process? What in fact makes it more high-fidelity and better than other processes?

                                    My virtual sketchbook, one a day https://www.instagram.com/edmundronald/

                                    #941834
                                    FrankM
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                                        This is an interesting question — “what does giclee mean?”

                                        I did find a blog that gave three criteria for an “official” giclee print. Simply put, here are the requirements per this blogger:

                                        1 – 300 dpi resolution
                                        2 – “archival quality” paper
                                        3 – pigment based inks

                                        For more, read here: https://www.creativebloq.com/print-design/giclee-printing-11121324

                                        Here’s another source with additional info, but it basically backs up the prescription above, summarizing as “But, not all inkjet printers produce giclee prints. It all boils down to these four elements: resolution, ink, paper, and printer type.” https://www.artworkarchive.com/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-giclee-prints

                                        I don’t know if these standards represent the views of the entire art world, but it’s a start for discussion.

                                        Apparently, I’ve been making giclee prints for about a year now. Who knew? :lol:

                                        Cheers!
                                        Frank

                                        FrankM

                                        #941837
                                        janecorrarino
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                                            I have seen artists paint similar paintings with a variation, such as in different seasons, different color scheme, different weather conditions, etc.

                                            #941842
                                            calvin_0
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                                                What exactly does the word “[I]giclée[/I]” mean?

                                                if i’m not mistaken, giclee is a made up word that originally was meant to separate a class of printer for reproducing artwork.

                                                giclee printer contain ink from the full rainbow rather than just CYMK for more accurate color reproduction and the ink are usually pigment based and archival.

                                                so what do the word giclee means? by itself, nothing since it was a made up word, but it is suppose to be derived from the french word “gicleur” which means “spary” or “splatter”

                                                #941832

                                                Yeah, Google’s translate web page shows “giclée” means “splash.” And “Splash” is a very good (and carefully printed) watercolor art magazine. So now we’re all confused. :)

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