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Old 11-13-2016, 08:54 PM
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Question Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

Hello,

I am a young artist who cannot afford to go to art school as reality brings to me.

I am also disabled with fibromyalgia.

I was wondering how I can make friends with other artists to get tips and ideas of how to go about a self-education in art.

I have looked into what some art school curriculums, but it doesnt provide much input...
I was tempted to just continue creating art, reading some books about different techniques...but theres also the social aspect of art school that ill be lacking.

I live far from art students etc.

Please give me some input and tips. thank you.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:31 AM
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

It's easier than ever before to be self taught. There is a wealth of information available now online for free.

The term "art" nowadays can mean anything, so what you study depends on what type of art you want to do. If you are planning on being a realist, I can't emphasize learning to draw enough. 98% of the problems people have learning to paint would be taken care of if they had bothered to learn to draw fist. If you are leaning toward an abstract or primitive style, drawing becomes less important. I would pick artists you admire and study what they did to be where they are.

As far as the social aspect, That depends on your location, but I've found that artists tend to find each other. You can obviously join artists groups and take workshops if they are available in your area.

Having other artists input is not all it's cracked up to be either, since most of us are biased to our own style and methods and that includes professional instructors. No matter how good someone is at their art, their approach is not necessarily going to fit you.

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Old 11-22-2016, 09:59 AM
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

University level art school? Or specialized art school?

My experience is of University Level Art School. Fully 1/2 to 3/4 of the classes were not art related. They were "core curriculum." Then you had to take art history classes, and some kind of non-visual related art, like theater. This left you with approximately 27 or so (it's been awhile) credit hours of actual "art."

For which you had to take: intro to design and design 2
drawing 1, and 2

that takes up 12 credit hours right there:

in the end, you would have painting, printmaking, photography, sculpture, or whatever you wanted to actually study at the end.

So,yeah, you could definitely become good at those things with books, and videos, and perhaps some classes.

What you get from college is a "Credential." I have a BA in English, an M.ed. and I will be finishing a BFA-- for which I have approximately 12 credits to go, as well as a math class. The credential (BFA) in art is right next to the terminal degree. Fine arts only give out BFA, and MFA. This would open the door for jobs. It also opens the door for various galleries. I was just reading an article where a very high ranked gallery turned down someone because she did not have an "art degree."

Student Aid is available for students to go to school.

Disability does not matter. Colleges go out of their way to help people with disabilities. The main thing is whether you can get to school and back, and do the work required.

I never really knew about the social aspect of art. You do meet more artists, and job contacts are the most important. Many of these artists are no further along than you, and cannot be helpful in your career at all. In fact, most people who go to school for art do not get jobs in art after school. This is the case for most of these degrees.

Community college is another route you may think of going. It is often very cheap, and art is taught there too.
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Old 12-21-2016, 05:36 AM
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

I always point people in the direction of Coursera....not just for art related things but the whole spectrum of knowledge. Plenty of art history courses on there alongside some more practical lectures and conceptual courses. My one big tip would also be to set up a dedicated working space to help you better concentrate. Get a decent lamp for working late into the night and surround youraelf with the tools you need and a few books for inspiration. Keep everything close to hand so when you're inspired, you can get straight to work.
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

My suggestion is to go to a community college. Many have wonderful art programs and are not all that expensive. If you can not afford to go full time, then start out by taking one or 2 courses.
Follow core curriculum. In my opinion, there is no substitute for a classroom experience. You will not only benefit from what the teacher has to offer, but the camaraderie and contact from other students is very important.
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

Hi Mblick! I was self taught for 4 years and when I got out of the military, I went to a college Fine Arts program.
The major difference is that you try many art styles you would probably never try. I've done sculpting , print screening, lino, paper cutting, plaster molds, all sorts of styles I never would have tried. They supply all the materials.

Also, learning from the University of Youtube is great, but you often bounce around a lot and you may not get the basics. The basics are very important, i never thought I'd learn anything from painting monochrome pears, but I sure did. I never did a still life before but now i see why artists do them.

Any professional program will help you put together a professional portfolio and give you access to artists who actually sell or exhibit their art. And you will also learn how to look at any painting and give a formal analysis and critique of other's artwork.

You will be surprised what will spark something in you when you are in a program. I came out of the army with a lot of issues, and during last semester i tore my knee ligaments while getting on a bus with all the supplies we have to carry with us. It's been tough to attend, but they make accommodations for you and the other students really helped a lot.

Lachri Fine Art is a young woman who turned to art because she dealt with a lot of pain. Just google her and her story and you will be inspired.

Don't let pain or poverty ruin your life, esp at a young age. Go talk to the advisors at a college. It's worth a trip.
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

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I was just reading an article where a very high ranked gallery turned down someone because she did not have an "art degree."


I know this is an old post, but I'd love to be directed toward that article if you can remember it.
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Here's my biggest tip for you: Don't consider your disabilities as disabilities. Think of them as beautiful additions to the person you are. Once you establish that, you can see the beauty in everything and you will cherish your art more and more. One more thing: never, ever limit yourself. Ever.
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

If you are interested in drawing I'm doing a free sketchbook drawing workshop. It's going to be a 5-day workshop so nothing too huge, but I will try to help students out as much as I can and hopefully we can build a nice friendly community from it.
workshop.sketchbookdrawing.com
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If you are interested in drawing I'm doing a free sketchbook drawing workshop. It's going to be a 5-day workshop so nothing too huge, but I will try to help students out as much as I can and hopefully we can build a nice friendly community from it.
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Hi Walt,
I found your courses on Skillshare too. And here's the official page with all courses:



https://waltterireunamofineart.com/page/21466/courses


Just in case someone is planning to Learn The Art Of Underpainting. Unfortunately, I failed to contact you directly because of the error message I get whenever I send my letter to waltteri (dot) reunamo (at) gmail (dot) com
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Re: Planning to avoid art school and teach myself instead... any suggestions or tips

Ah yes I can speak from experience and hope it helps you..I was able to go to art college for free when education in Britain was free didn't realise how lucky I was back then. Anyhoo I did the whole shebang from A level art at school right through climbing the ladder in art college upto to London Brunel Uni and a couple of others..(totally screwed it up as was 8 months pregnant had serious health issue to do with the pregnancy around the last few months of completing and getting degree so had to quit it and never finished it) but however I do feel still that I have some genuine advice to offer having been through that system.

1. Even if I had got the piece of paper in the end I would not have used it actualy as that is realy if you want to go into teaching which I never did so if you want it as a vocation like that then it is worth it and shelling out the now exorbitant fees.
2.The knowledge gained back then was not available at the books in Waterstones nor any big librarys in london etc nor did we have internet to the point we do now no information like that was available through those channels like it is now..so there was much and very valued knowledge that I am gratefull for now that I learned through lectures and the uni librarys
.But the point is you will not need that from a university as there is such a thing now where you can actualy download even the stuff they have in university librarys now on line ..my son does it as he is unable due to health to attend a university.
3.Yes there is open university some free course but they are not realy all that good for an actual practicing artist they are more just the study of the theory of art or history of it.
4.I guess the one good thing to say about actual universitys is the connections you make and social art movements etc..but then again there at are on line art forums like this so..


In short I would say to you that knowledge is important but that knowlegde does not have to come from a universitity . and that if you want to teach then uni is good. You couldmaybe try a taster course and see if it is for you and then you have not wasted too much money.
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