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Old 01-27-2018, 12:33 PM
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Re: First indirect method attempt

I don't know about that background but i think the dress works pretty well. Let me know what you think. I was torn between this violet and a cool minty green. I can always paint over it, but i have to tell you that the more i look at it, especially on screen, more power it seems to project. The addition of surrounding colors add life and context to the remainder of the project. I hope its now easier to lay in the facial temperatures.
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So be honest with me. Is the haloing effect too much? Cheesy even? Maybe I just need to tone it down.
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In my opinion, the background distracts from the face. Backgrounds in portraits can be tricky, but generally speaking, simpler is usually better.

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You are right. It was too much. I will try something else. Here it is with a verdaccio glaze.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:47 PM
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I have applied the first glaze to the hair and laid in another background, which i like so far. Let me know what you think while it is still wet. I applied it with a knife so its variegated and the paint was not thoroughly mixed. Its indigo with some black and white so its not as blue as it looks here.
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I have glazed it and wiped it down 4 times. The first two times I had trouble getting the paint to stick. It was actually beading up like it was water on oil, or vice versa. I finally decided (might be wrong) that it was the stand oil in my medium. I bought a book which states that stand oil creates a shiny enamel finish, which is true, and probably makes it difficult to paint over (my conclusion). It appears to be fine when used in the direct method because everything stays wet. I switched to linseed oil and it seems to work fine.
In the process of wiping it down I did some damage so I had to repaint the underlayer. I used a fairly traditional earth tone mix which is much greener than it appears in this photo. I will treat it as the verdaccio. There is some burnt umber and yellow ochre in the mix so it qualifies as warm over cool.
I will let it dry and start the temperature glazes next. See you closer to March. Please offer any suggestions you may have.
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looking good
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Thank you Mr Daniels. I appreciate the feedback. I read a book by the artist at the following link and have learned much regarding Indirect painting. I hope you like it.
https://youtu.be/HQjwtyOITKY
Here is my progress today. I am beginning to understand just how little paint is in each layer. I can see why this method was so popular when paint was so scarce.
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Be careful with the layering effect on the tone. At her right eye (left on image) the eye pit depression from the nose lost some of value contrast to the rest of image in that last layer of yours. It is still ok but if your layering continues to degrade the value contrast you might need to do an adjustment layer to avoid flattening the image
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Thanks Tiago. Thats a good catch. Based on my latest glaze, it is apparent that in the next step I will need to remodel the entire face and bring the values back up. Can you tell I covered all the skin with another glaze. It is not so clear in the photo. I like to use the softest acrylic wash brush I own for glazing. I get the smoothest, most even application with it. I apply the glaze, then treat the brush with medium, squeeze it out, and work the paint so the coat is even. There is a real danger in overworking the glaze. If it starts to get tacky, it will tend to clump. I actually glazed it three times and wiped it off twice. Thanks to everyone for looking. Please offer any tips or tricks that might help me.
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Yes, in practice, the indirect process isn't just about layering glazes. Things can get too dark before you know it so you have to keep going back and forth adjusting values. Looking good so far though.
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