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    There seems to be alot of confusion about color, so let’s start with the color wheel. Feel free to ask questions regarding color. I will answer to the best of my ability and/or ask other color experts to chime in.

    I am strictly relating the color theory to Colored Pencils. Nothing else!

    Ok I had mentioned starting with a color wheel a number of times. This should be done with 12 colors. Three primary colors, Three secondary colors, and three tertiary colors. (now not to be mean, but if you don’t even know these terms, I have to say you need to learn some color theory before starting colored pencils, because cp’s are all about color.)

    I have labeled on my wheel which are primary’s, secondary’s and tertiary colors…all these colors are prismacolor, although the chart can be done with any pencils

    First start by layering the color down all three rings so that it comes to a point in the middle.

    For the second layer, take the color that is opposite on the color wheel, and layer it on top. That’s your complement (notice the spelling). So let’s take Orange and blue for example, which are complements.

    on the blue side I layer orange on top, and on the orange side of the color wheel I layer blue on top.

    What that shows is if i want to use a complement as an underpainting, I just have to look on the opposite side to see how it would work. Again taking a look at blue/orange.

    If i want to put the complement of orange (blue) underneath to see how it would layer, I look on the blue side and see the orange on top of the blue. If i want to see how the complement of blue would work under the blue, i look across to the orange side.

    Now for the third ring. That is the pure color from up top with white over it…giving it a tint.

    Now let’s define some terms. Only I’m going to make you work to define them.

    Tint
    Shade
    Value
    Hue
    Analogous Color

    Once this is understood we can get into the colors I use for my underpainting. Another thing is to definitely take a look in the hall of fame at the color theory threads. Why? because they’ll help define things for you also.

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    #1028717

    Ok the colors i used above in no particular order are:

    canary yellow
    true blue
    true green
    chartreuse
    orange
    violet
    violet blue
    dahlia purple
    poppy red
    scarlet lake
    aquamarine
    yellowed orange

    obviously because of the differences, the colors are not 100% accurate on the screen. I did the best i could.

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        THANK YOU so much for going to the trouble to do this. I have a book with this but they had used a gatrillion colors and the samples where so small it just looked like a daunting task. I will make one Monday after the Holiday is over. Need to restudy the things I didn’t pay enought attention to in hs. :o wanda

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            Arlene this is great!!! Printed this out, made the wheel. Now will take a look in the color theory forum for more. Thanks for all the detailed work you posted here.

            Genine


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            #1028925
            Glenspey
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                Thank you Arlene, for taking the time to do this, I have some spare time tomorrow so doing this colour wheel will be a must.

                Gayle

                #1028949
                paintkaz
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                    Arlene-
                    Thank you for posting this – the list of colours used is particularly of interest to me. Hope I get the opportunity to play around with this over the w/e. I’ve done colourwheels before but not with pencils so I suppose I could be called a kind of “false beginner” as we used to say in Berlitz.
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                    #1028849
                    GenineAnn
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                        Ok, did some diggin around.

                        Tell me if I’m close:

                        Tint = light values of color, like if white were added
                        Shade = are dark values of color, like if black were added
                        Value = describes the demension of lightness & darkness of color
                        Hue= describes one demension of color, it is color
                        Analogous color = has one color element in common, like violet, red, orange

                        Like to hear from some others on these def. as well.

                        Genine


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                        #1028795
                        DebSpinks
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                            Arlene, I don’t do CP but I love lurking this forum because of all the wonderful work and especially the good, sound advice you and the other regulars here give on topics such as composition, hard/soft edges, handling backgrounds, etc. that pertain not only to CP, but to all media. I especially like this fundamental color wheel and your succinct, clear explanation of how it is constructed.

                            Although you mention that this particular discussion relates only to CP, you’ve made me curious about how the layering technique you used can be translated to other media. In the past, I’ve done watercolor and oil/acrylic wheels using complements mixed and laid on in one go. Using your “underlayer/overlayer” technique, I’m going to try the wheel in a transparent watercolor glaze version and in both acrylic and oil versions (using opaque for the underlayer and glaze for the overlayer). Should be an interesting result!

                            Thank you for this valuable information. I rate this thread 5 stars.

                            Debra

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                            Troy Rochford
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                                Arlene you are simply the greatest person who has ever lived :clap: ;)

                                Well, close anyway…

                                Thanks!

                                have a nice day!

                                #1028788
                                pencils4me
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                                    Great Idea!

                                    Thanks arelene for the time and effort it took for you to put this together. Ya know you might as well just make it a sicky or make it a candiate for the HOF!

                                    TJ

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                                    #1028962
                                    siberart
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                                        Arlene, thank you. I plan on putting it to good use!

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                                        #1028791
                                        Zoo

                                            Thank you, THank you, Thank you Arlene…you have made this SOOO much easier for me to understand.

                                            Let’s see if i remember this right (I have been reading up on color theory a little)

                                            Tint= color + white
                                            Shade= color + black
                                            Value= how light or dark a color is
                                            Hue= color
                                            Analogous Color = any shade, tint or tone of colors that rest beside each other on the color wheel

                                            Thanx again Arlene…this thread is already fantastic :)

                                            ~smile~
                                            Zoo

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                                            Ok, did some diggin around.

                                            Tell me if I’m close:

                                            Tint = light values of color, like if white were added
                                            Shade = are dark values of color, like if black were added
                                            Value = describes the demension of lightness & darkness of color
                                            Hue= describes one demension of color, it is color
                                            Analogous color = has one color element in common, like violet, red, orange

                                            Like to hear from some others on these def. as well.

                                            Good answers GenineAnn, except there is no if about it! ;)

                                            Tint = Any color with white added

                                            Shade = Any color with black added (or its complement)

                                            Value = The darkness or lightness of a color. The darkest value is black, and the lightest is white.

                                            Hue = Is pure color. Red, Yellow, Blue.
                                            Hue is also another name for color; according to Webster: the attribute of colors that permits them to be classed as red, yellow, green, blue, or an intermediate between any contiguous pair of these colors.

                                            Analogous color = Any colors next to one another on the color wheel and that share a common color. When used together they look as though they belong together.

                                            Zoo: Ya done good! :)

                                            ~ Judy

                                            Edited to correct my miserable spelling…..hahaha

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                                            ok Judy and Zoo have it. Now I want to see your color wheels. Post them in here.

                                            After that I’m going to make you do a value scale.

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                                            i will have a new assignment to try tomorrow…and then another the next day…all related to this thread.

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