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Old 03-09-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: Landscape Composition Rules

yeah, me too... just beginning to think of doing landscapes and would really love to read this article.

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I have searched this entire thread and somehow have not been able to find the article that everyone is raving about. Back in 2003 when it was first posted, the link no longer works. Can someone please tell me where I can go to find the article? Or is it no longer available in an article and is now a book, as I've seen referenced?

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okay folks...
every forum has a Channel...and if you look above each Wetcanvas page there is a place to scroll thru the channels.

the landscape "channel" has articles, as does the Composition forum...and this was an article written on the Landscape rules...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/135/120/

if you do not bookmark this...again, just look in the channel...
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Thank you so much for all of this, I cannot tell you how much it will help me! I have bookmarked it and hope it is never taken off! Edyth in Texas
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Thank you for doing a very good job of defining the technical aspects of landscape painting, but painters should also be aware that these tech tips should used to help convey the painter's idea (concept). The idea must come first, and composition is a tool used to help convey the idea to the viewer. The quality of a work is determined by the importance of the idea relative to today's social attitudes and how well the artist has brought his idea to the viewer.
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The quality of a work is determined by the importance of the idea relative to today's social attitudes and how well the artist has brought his idea to the viewer.

I'd agree with most of what you said, but...if our relavant social times and mores slips arguably into modes of mediocrity ...I guess I'd argue how important this determinant would be. In which case, I'd rather produce a work that would have found approval from past artists I admired and would prefer as mentors, past ideas of excellence and mores, and so forth.

Whenever an "ought" is suggested...which you have here, I have to ask myself why ought the ought ought to be? What ultimately makes a right right and a wrong wrong?

We have at best an example to better understand your mores...but they wouldn't succeed to define an essential ought for everyone's sense of that which should be ideal composition.

Not to argue...as I said I agree with most of what you have said, but if we're not careful...there is a tone of insistence with the wording as you have it that has not the authority to shackle or bind. Gives us an interesting premise to perhaps study your work and the works of those you might admire.

It may well be we don't believe the vast enculturation of the modern possesses the taste we wish to have our work judged by. Its not always a bad thing to be outdated or passe´...in fact, I'm motivated to imagine I'd have an occasional nod from Edgar Payne or Emile Gruppe...

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Re: Landscape Composition Rules

Thank you Johannes. Tremendous help.
Everyone, instead of finding ways to reformat and print it . . how about an old fashioned pencil and paper. You will ponder and retain the information ten fold.
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Hi, Folks very exciting discussion, it really "hits home". I also have read and studied Johannes article and have added to my library, thank you Johannes. All I have learned so far about composition and painting of Landscapes has been by studying these books:
1. COMPOSITION OF OUTDOOR PAINTING by Edgar Payne
2. CARLSON'S GUIDE TO LANDSCAPE PAINTING by John Carlson
3. OIL PAINTING SOLUTION BOOK FOR LANDSCAPES by Elizabeth Tooley
4. DISCOVERING OIL PAINTING by George Chevepov
5. LANDSCAPE IN WATERCOLOR by Wendon Blake
6. KEYS TO SUCCESSFUL LANDSCAPE PAINTING by Foster Cadell
7. KEYS TO SUCCESSFUL COLOR by Foster Cadell
8. PAINTING THE IMPRESSIONIST LANDSCAPE by Lois Griffel
9. PAINTING BETTER LANDSCAPES by Margaret Kessler
10. PAINTING LANDSCAPES by Harry R. Ballinger
11. TREES AND LANDSCAPES by Ted Kautzky
I'm sure that they will help the beginner as well as the advanced painter.
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Re: Landscape Composition Rules

Wonderful, informative article.
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Re: Landscape Composition Rules

These were wonderful guidelines. I have read so much from famous painters about how nature must be your guide and your constant study, but I can see more clearly now that sometimes nature does not give us the most beautiful thing after all. It tantalizes us, i guess, occassional fabulou composition and many many near misses. God is fortunate to have a huge canvas and light emitting shapes in his landscapes. Sound, wind, all of that that we don't have, so we have to create a beautiful scene everytime, not just some of the time. Thanks so much. A.
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! The time and work you put into this wonderful tutorial are greatly appreciated. I did a copy/paste to a word document of all your 39 points, so I can keep them in my studio.
Again, thank you for sharing .
Happy Painting!
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A very big thank you for sharing your knowledge, all the things I thought I knew and often forgot to apply. Next time I get stuck with the feeling "not quite right", I can go straight to your pages.
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I love this article!!! Got it saved for future reference. Thank you
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There is an embarrassment of riches here. I also photograph, and was struck by how many of these principles work in photography as well. In painting, one can bend a tree or put a curve in a stream. In photography, one must walk around so that the camera captures a compositionally strong scene.
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I've finished Page 16, and I could not tear loose before now to post. I've been painting for a long time and have always been dissatisfied with my end result. I already see what my problems have been. My work will improve leaps and bounds now, thank you very much. I'm enthused about reading from Page 17 on.

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