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Old 07-25-2018, 09:19 PM
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Question Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

I have four Neopastels and really love the softness and how they layer well. I was going to buy several more but came across some reviews that claimed Neopastels bloomed. I'm assuming they meant it actually bloomed on their artwork, not just on the stick. My Olive black and Vandycke Brown Neopastels have evidence of blooming on the stick, but I haven't noticed anything on my artwork yet, but I'm just starting out and haven't done many oil pastel works yet.

Has anyone experienced blooming in their artwork because of using Neopastels? Or know someone who has?

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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Sorry, no experience with Neopastels. Reeves do bloom too but I haven't seen any adverse effect on my paintings yet. As far as I know, blooming takes a while before becoming visible to our eyes.
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Morning and welcome, Jessrose21!

I have about 50 sticks of neopastels and some of the sticks have bloomed, but the paintings I've completed with them have been fine.

There was a thread started about this four years ago, and two other oil pastelists have replied and said it's not a problem in their paintings:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1364774

Maybe the act of laying down and blending the colours mixes the wax in better than in the original stick form? I don't know. You should be fine, anyway
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More info, including a response from Caran D'Ache: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...ighlight=bloom
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Sorry, no experience with Neopastels. Reeves do bloom too but I haven't seen any adverse effect on my paintings yet. As far as I know, blooming takes a while before becoming visible to our eyes.


Hmm, thanks for the heads up on Reeves. Will avoid that brand. I wonder what conditions cause the bloom? Exposure to sun or oxygen? Extreme heat or cold?

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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Hi Sarah! Thanks for the welcome and for doing the research for me! I really appreciate you finding those threads; it's not always easy to search the forums as I've learned. I feel much better about using the CDs and will be putting them on my next order.

I'm in need of some pinks that aren't as purple as the ones in my Mungyo Gallery set. Any recommendations on pink Caran D'ache that would be good for painting roses?

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Morning and welcome, Jessrose21!

I have about 50 sticks of neopastels and some of the sticks have bloomed, but the paintings I've completed with them have been fine.

There was a thread started about this four years ago, and two other oil pastelists have replied and said it's not a problem in their paintings:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1364774

Maybe the act of laying down and blending the colours mixes the wax in better than in the original stick form? I don't know. You should be fine, anyway
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

You're very welcome. It's far easier to search for something that you remember being posted before, than to look for something without knowing whether or not you'll find an answer!

I'm not a floral/botanical painter and I've never painted a rose, but I reckon you'll need at least granite rose and raspberry red. Granite rose is a beautifully fresh, bright pink and raspberry red is a punchy warm red with high impact. Cream will give your roses delicate warm highlights, and Prussian blue and blue jeans will make you nice cooler shadows if you layer them over the rose and red.

Those five Neopastels should make good roses, and Mungyo has plenty of greens and browns for the stems and leaves.
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

I have done paintings of all of my dogs with the Neopastels for years and none of them have bloomed. We have hot (over 100) summers and cold (below freezing) winters so they have been exposed to lots of temperatures.
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I have noticed that some of my Neopastels have white mould on it, so spots. :-(.
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I have noticed that some of my Neopastels have white mould on it, so spots. :-(.
Hi Macarona! It's not mould, it's just the wax separating. It's not a problem and the pastels can still be used
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Is it bright enough?
I uploaded it with my smartphone and it was very bright there. On my pc, all photos look much darker.

I know this thin white layer, in my case it's a thicker layer.
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Yes, that's just the wax oozing to the surface and nothing to worry about. You can scrape it off with a knife if you're bothered about it
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Well, with the brown pastel on the right, it looks a little fluffier and thicker. I know that with the oxidation of my cheap house brands pastels.

That's why I asked, because it looks different than usual and it smells a bit bad.
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

Oh, it's actually fluffy? My apologies, it looks just like wax bloom from the photo! Yeah, fluffiness can only be mould
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Re: Fact or Fiction? Do Caran d'Ache Neopastels bloom?

eek! While some of the flat-laying whitish stuff on the surface of most of these OP's looks like normal wax bloom, I don't think the deep brown on the end looks the same. The round fluffy patches look more like something that would grow in a lab culture medium. (Or old cheese!) Also, you mentioned it has an odor, which also indicates mold.
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