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Old 10-18-2019, 08:27 AM
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Title: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)
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Medium: Pencil
Surface: Paper
Dimension: 11 x 17
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!

MY COMMENTS:
This is the re-uploaded version with better sizing.

While a thunderstorm rages during the Cretaceous summer, a lone T. rex spooks a pair of Edmontosaurus as it tries to find shelter from the storm. In the distance, a trio of ostrich-mimics (Struthiomimus) speedily seek out shelter too.

This drawing is an homage to the painting "Tyrannosaurus and Trachodon" by Zdenek Burian, the legendary Czech paleoartist. The painting can be found easily on Google image search.

Being an homage, I admit the originality is diminished. However, I did put a couple of twists into it by making it a stormy setting and "updating" the dinosaurs.

It should be noted that the contrast was partially achieved by digital means. This was due to the original photo making the drawing appear too light.

Also of special note, due to the debate over the integument of T. rex being either scaly or feathered still underway, I decided to take a middle ground approach by giving the mostly scaly T. rex a "saddle" of emu-like feathers.

Two other minor mistakes that should be ignored are the following:

1) The lower jaw of the T. rex is a little too long. The shadowing does help hide it.

2) The Struthiomimus trio in the background are a little too big. This was due to a misjudgment in perspective.

Overall, this drawing is a personal landmark for me in the amount of detail and research that went into it. This is the first "real" paleo-artwork I feel would potentially good enough to be featured in books, jou<br>als, etc.

However, I would like to have it critiqued so that way I can know whether or not this drawing is good enough. Because I think there is always room for improvement.



MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Feedback on the overall composition is welcomed.

The following are of special interest:

Does the contrast help set the mood for the scene?

Does the movement of the dinosaurs appear "natural"? (e.g. Do you think the animals would move like this in real life?)

Are the subtleties of the dinosaurs' expressions enough to convey their behavior?

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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

Seems to blend too much, a little too dark over all..
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Seems to blend too much, a little too dark over all..

I agree. Any suggestions about how I can improve? Thanks for the critique.
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Old 10-25-2019, 01:53 PM
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

More value range / variations of tone so objects show up against the background..light against dark etc..
The left 2 dinos are very confusing.. I didn't even see the smaller one until a very close look.. they seem joined together..

I notice the back trees & rain lines seem to be slanted all same angle..our hands/arms do that naturally, we have to be aware to avoid it..
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Old 10-25-2019, 01:57 PM
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

There is a Drawing & Sketching forum here that may have some more detailed info on how to improve.
Here is the link if you haven't found it yet..
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/chan...&channel_id=15
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

Thanks for the tips, and I will certainly look into the forum for improvement. The trees and rain lines are intentionally slanted to give the impression of strong winds. However, I agree that it is something I can improve on as well. Thanks again for the advice!
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

The rainline suggests the wind is moving to our left, but the trees are slanting to the right against the wind.
I think the drawing is quite good, but as mentioned lacks clarity through contrast.
but I think what threw me the most was how the top of all the dinosaurs are level, and this is just below the level horizon. That is part of why it is disappearing. They look like the ground which has similar patterns to the dinosaurs.
also, your three distant dinos are all somehow in the same step of their run, and their tails line up so perfectly it looks like they share one giant tail.
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Old 11-09-2019, 03:34 PM
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

I didn't even notice the 3 upper right...
be aware of what might be aiming the viewer out of a scene..
like objects too close to edges & pointing outward like those 3- luckily in this case they don't show up strongly.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:32 AM
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

Wow, that's a ton of work. I like your ideas, and agree with the responders. You pencil artists are amazing. What kind of paper is this on?
For me, it's overall too dark, there is too little contrast, I can't make a lot of it out. (Could also be a problem with my monitor.)

I would like to suggest you check out several works by Jennaboo88.
Jennaboo88 is (also) a scratchboard artist. Your drawing is reminiscent of that.
Consider studying several of her pieces. Here's a couple, She sometimes includes WIPs
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1471377

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1467756
and a drawing
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1469169
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Re: Thunderstorm I (re-upload)

Putting the brightest whites next to the darkest shades makes things pop out at you and grab your attention. You did this with horizon and it takes over the show. Now if you want the horizon and storm to be the focus with the dinosaurs as a decorative element, it is perfect. But if you want the dinosaurs to be the stars you need to make them pop more than the background. Really great detail work, btw.
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