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Old 02-04-2018, 12:54 PM
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Hey ntl -

Thanks for the tip about scraping off unwanted marks.

I answered your PM but can't tell whether it got thru or not, and you know of course that the is no address available for your regular email.

I will re-send if you like. My email should be available thru the Profile info.

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Old 02-12-2018, 07:09 PM
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Exercise application techniques and WIP

Objectives & results
making fine lines = used Sharpie Oil based marker to first outline main shapes

blending = first tried fingers & paper towel wads on light and heavy marks = tough going with the Shivas. THEN tried R&F blending stick = Big difference! ,much easier.

removing paint to clean up edges = used paring knife. plastic knife, credit card
and bit of turps = okay but not neat, cannot clean up some marks.

13 x 18in on plastic coated paper Shivas only.
Version 1.


More work, Ver 2


Working on Version 3

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Old 02-19-2018, 03:40 PM
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Version 3.

I forgot to mention that this composition was guided by the principle of KISS; (KeepItSimpleStupid) so as not to give additional problems to my elementary abilities with Oil Sticks.

The main objectives here were to continue blending to get the colors I wanted without using blending medium, just to see how far I could go.

Next I will be trying workable fixative to see how that fits in, but maybe not on this piece.



Version 4. trying for more saturation


C&C of course

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Old 02-19-2018, 10:55 PM
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Great going, Trier. You're really getting to know your oil sticks now.
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hi Wendy -
You mentioned Karma sticks and I wondered how you felt about them, especially as compared to the Shivas, of which I have a black stick and like.
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Oops, sorry I took so long to respond!
I was just admiring one of your cross-posted landscapes, where you mention this thread. I had just kind of wandered off and forgot to come back.
I like the Kama oil sticks best; their slim size, consistency, and the range of colors. They have some lovely greyed-down colors and some transparents. I did get a couple with a thin hard core down the centre, which is annoying.
I prefer to work on a sanded surface so put clear gesso on the panel, and when painting wait a few days when the surface gets too greasy, to let it harden and (try to) avoid over-blending.

Thanks to everyone who commented!
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:07 PM
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Thanks, Christel.
I feel I am making some progress and will continue trying for a while more.

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Old 02-22-2018, 12:53 PM
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Hi Wendy

I figured something like that happened, as we all do it from time to time.

Thanks for the Kama information, much appreciated.

I have ordered 4 large sticks from them on the hunch that if you used them, they must be somewhat good and worth a try.
I was somewhat surprised by the shipping cost of $16, which of course comes out to $4 per stick. Do you there in Canada pay comparable rates on art supplies from here in the USA? (just curious)

Your experience with blending is very welcome as blending is what I am trying to explore to the maximum. I have not 'overblended' yet that I know of, which is something I would like to do so that I could recognize it.
'Overblending' must mean that you cannot add any more stick to an area,or maybe it means the color is turning to mud.

Thanks again

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By overblending I just mean I fuss with it so much it loses its freshness.
I did that with a sky and water recently, yuck. I'm letting it dry so I can re-do it. Others can blend and fuss to their hearts content; I just don't like the result when I do it.
Shipping from the US to Canada is very expensive. It's the cross-border thing I guess, and then the customs brokers sometimes get involved and charge a fee. I paid a fortune in shipping for my black UART paper from Dakota, but was able to order some more stuff without changing the shipping cost significantly. Did something similar with ordering oil pastels from Blick.
If you ask for a shipping comparison, say how much for 8 items and how much for 16 items, there might not be much difference.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:34 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, Wendy.

Upon further investigation, I find that yes, the postal rate are really that high, and the addition or subtraction of a few sticks doesn't make a lot of difference but the rate curve is pretty steep for more weight; further, if I order over $100USD, Kama will ship free.

I ordered and received(after three weeks), 4 large oil sticks, B&W, burnt sienna and cobalt blue.
I am trying them now and they seem on the hard side, which is okay with me.

Here is a WIP using the Kama sticks and Shivas.
I plan to intensify the colors and add some other elements.
I am still frustrated by the difficulty of getting lines, very time consuming and imprecise.
12 x 19ins on paper


The glare on the right is because the paper is plastic coated.
I kinda like the white border, and maybe will try some variations of that when/if I get that far.

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A great start, Trier.Looking forward to your update.
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Nice start here, Trier! I love your whimsical drawings and your outlines. I agree with your decision to intensify the colors. Looking forward to the update!
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Old 03-24-2018, 06:31 PM
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Okay, more work and time than it is worth, trying to fix mistakes on this..
I think I have been spoiled by acrylics with their ease of just painting over something almost immediately.

Anyway, putting this WIP on hold for now.
I will work on the star field, after I clean up some of the major messes; I may start another one from my template of this.

I sprayed it with Senn Fixative to hold it till I get back.



The circular shape in the sky and the bridge sides are brighter IRL.

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Wheee! This looks like a fun one.
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Dear Trier,
A long time ago I purshaed Kama and love them mainly because they are a great size. I wish other oil sticks came the same size. I loved your paintings and description of your trials and then seem to like. I use only oil sticks because it is easier to cover mistakes with oil sticks. I paint even some smaller things now and will occasionally use a paint brush directly on the stick. Maela49
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